Seismic Dev Thread

[Dr. Shadowborg]

Sorry, wrong foot etc.

I did not see anything about QC, I made my own assumption. I did not accuse you of planning to violate anything.

No biggie, I suppose its partially my fault for not being fully explicit in defining what "free" meant. (But this is a dev thread! It's not supposed to be a lawyer meeting!)

On the opposite! I prefer fully free projects because they enable others to continue working on them if developers leave or if people want to do their own changes to it!

A project like this could aim really high (inclusion into all the Linux distributions) if done as fully GPL or GPL + similarly free media license.

We'll see. A lot depends on how much help I get from the Fellowship of the Seismic.

Thus far, its me (wondering how I got talked into this), .plan (he looks good on paper, but this is a real fight!) agreeing to fight a Computer, Programmer's Notepad, and Jackhammer, at Rivendell Stadium (in front of all the elves), then finding out that I might also have to fight the Blender and the Cooledit, in addition to the other three. All at once. At the same time. With nothing but a half full bag of Legos.

Oh, and mindz is the ringside announcer.

Well, nothing to do but do my best I guess, huh?

[Spirit]

Sorry, wrong foot etc.

I did not see anything about QC, I made my own assumption. I did not accuse you of planning to violate anything.

You dislike "Free Quake" projects, because you would rather people buy and play Quake instead.

On the opposite! I prefer fully free projects because they enable others to continue working on them if developers leave or if people want to do their own changes to it!

A project like this could aim really high (inclusion into all the Linux distributions) if done as fully GPL or GPL + similarly free media license.

[Dr. Shadowborg]

Meh, why bother then...?

Are you going to rewrite the QC from scratch? I don't think there is another legal way around the GPL otherwise.

Read what I wrote, then think about it again.

Where EXACTLY did I specfically state ANYTHING about the QC source?

If you think for a minute that I'm trying to sidestep the GPL, think again.

Note Dox's license, which I read to be Non-Profit Public Domain with accreditation (and thus fine for anything but commercial exploitation)

Thus, I cannot state that the final result of this project is 100% GPL "Free", because parts of it (art assets) are not GPL. What I CAN do however, is release the final product (for free), explicitly state what parts of it are GPL (and release sourcecode / point to the original source if unmodified) and what parts are NOT GPL, and provide the original license for those parts. (which I gather from reading the GPL 2 License, do not constitute a violation.)

GPL Engine, progs.dat and QC source, do not constitute the project as a whole.

I understand where you are coming from though. You dislike "Free Quake" projects, because you would rather people buy and play Quake instead.

Do not be assy though and presume that you can kill off anything you do not like with inferences of GPL Violation Shitstorms, okay?

[Mindf!3ldzX]

Meh, why bother then...?

Are you going to rewrite the QC from scratch? I don't think there is another legal way around the GPL otherwise.

QC can't be used? I was under the impression we could ,replace assets,and use only gpl compliant stuff,etc. and reach a Quakeone.com hostable free download.

Didn't MadGypsy rewrite QC or something? (im being serious)

[Spirit]

Seismic will be a free multiplayer quake. Not free as in GPL free, but free nonetheless.

Meh, why bother then...?

Are you going to rewrite the QC from scratch? I don't think there is another legal way around the GPL otherwise.

[wicked_lord]

Interesting to say the least. Let's see what progress this gets and see if we can make it a movement and bring back quake but for free ;]

[Mindf!3ldzX]

News point's here now!