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  • TheKillingJoke
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    Gore mod

    V 0.7 -

    QORE v0.7

    Changes for update v0.7

    - new introduced / discovered bugs:
    Gibstages sometimes only play animations when shot
    Kickfunction sometimes interferes with weaponmodel update
    teleporting another monster into air sometimes stucks the teleported monster in air for a few seconds
    selecting and cycling through weapons is a bit buggy again

    - gib stages:
    Another way of fragging, restricted to nailguns. If a monster dies, you can shoot it several times, until the corpse is shredded
    to pieces. With every subsequent hit, the monster loses parts of its body or what is left of it. Imagine
    that you slice an apple into small pieces before you hit it with a sledgehammer. Bring an umbrella.

    - added back the new weapons
    Couldn't wait to add them. Weapon selection functions are still buggy.

    - added cvars:
    You can now switch the new monster abilities and attacks on and off
    You can now choose which of the new weapons spawns and which not
    You can now determine how many gibs will spawn from fragged / killed enemies
    Chasecam on player death yes or not.

    - Added dismemberment and different bloody deaths to the player model
    Still got trouble with the player skin colors in combination with the painskins.
    As long as i'm seaarching for a solution the player body has no bloodskins.
    But the limbs do have bloody gibskins already.

    This is the standard rendering method in the qore.cfg now. You can read about how to make
    it look like a modern shooter in the qore.cfg

    - Worked on the whole multiplayer section:
    Added FrikbotX
    Projectiles will now be teleported, so you can shoot nails into a teleporter and the appear on the other side of it.
    Player and bots have different dismemberment & frag deaths.

    - added new enemies and worked on the stock ones:
    Hazard Enforcer : Slime shooting Enforcer in a hazard suit.
    Nogre : Fires a cloud of nails.

    - Dedicated some of the death animations to specific weapons:
    The gib stages only have a chance to occur if you shoot something with the nailguns.
    Enemies who got killed by explosive weapons always gib completely
    Enemies loose limbs when hit with shotguns or energy weapons
    The Lightning Gun will either completely gib an enemy or play one of the bloody death animations, no limb loss.
    All that varies from enemy to enemy. Don't expect to shoot of a shamblers arm with the single barreled shotgun.

    - reduced the chance for limb loss, which makes the fights harder and severing a limb more satisfying again. Reduced the chances for bloody deaths for the same reason
    Less is more. With these changes it not every monster pops into a bloody paste and convolutes the screen, the gore happens around 50% less
    and that's a good thing, both for atmosphere and for balance.

    - added and reworked the pain & bloodskins for :
    Ogre & variant, Demon, Shambler, Soldier & variants, Dog, Shalrath, Knight, Hell Knight, Wizard, Fish
    With the new skins and the painskins the fights feel more satisfying and intense.
    The player body itself doesn't have painskins or bloodskins, because of issues with the selectable shirt and
    colours. I'm working on it.

    - increased the chance for painloops again, but only a wee bit
    - reworked the Nail Ogre skin
    - scaled down the gib-heads of every monster
    - worked on the berserker monster to get it to work some day
    - worked on the hell baron monster code (a free model by Ruin) to get it to work someday
    - on certain maps the extra-pickup items won't respawn anymore
    - Quake uses the old rotating weapon models and armor model when you play deathmatch
    - blood splats from fragging something don't fly upwards forever, so after fraggin something, the ceiling 900 meters above it won't get painted.
    - the blood splats behind a shot enemy are now looking better
    - explosive weapons only randomly ignite gibs
    - added preset qore.cfg and particlefont.tga files for different playstyles
    (faithful to the original gameplay but with gore OR with the most kinky other stuf i added so far).
    - added different skins for the different soldiers (nails/shotgun)
    - added the missing dismemberment bleeding effects for the Fiend/Demon
    - Metal sparks added to hit effects for Knight and Hellknight
    - enemies will more often get pushed back on death
    - added a batch file to start qore
    - found out that the footsteps cvar didn't work as it should, fixed it
    - reworked the gib velocities and mass
    - increased the chainsaw damage by 20 points per frame to make it actually useful
    You still need a heckton of skill to use it as a weapon
    - fixed the dead-dog slide bug
    - hopefully fixed the knight invulnerability bug
    (not entirely sure its gone, but i shot a hundred knights without seeing it happening)

    Hot to start QORE

    - Buy and install Quake -
    - Download Darkplaces -
    - Put the Darkplaces files into your Quake 1 Folder, right where the Quake.exe is.
    - extract this mod into your Quake folder, so you have ...\Quake\Qore\
    - read the qore.cfg file and modify the cvars to your liking.
    - Choose the particlefont.tga file that fits your choosen rendermethod and pu it into the particles folder.
    - rename it to particlefont.tga
    - open the qore modfolder and doubleclick qore.bat

    Mind that you can only have 1 single mod with progs.dat file active.
    Other mods like HD textures or model replacements should be dropped to the ID1
    folder. Maybe you have to adjust the gamme / brightness, because every monitor is different.

    How to update

    Delete the files in your Qore folder
    Copy the new fils into your Qore folder
    reconfigure your qore.cfg and particlefont.tga
    Start a new game.
    Savegames from old versions may still contain old information and can produce unwanted behaviour of... things.


    - help from the Community

    - Sounds - Splatter & Cracking & falling sounds -
    HaelDB - HaelDB - Armor walking Sounds -
    mikhog - Acid Burn sound -
    adrix89 - Sounds -
    TankersleyFX - Splat sound Effect -
    Gumichan01 - Teleporter sound -

    - Models
    Per Kristian Risvik - for the chainsaw model - [email protected]
    Atmostatic - Demonic Eye model -
    oparaskos - Brain model -
    ceriux - for his Kick models -
    Preach - for his weapon models -
    Ulrich Galbraith - for the gib models -

    - .qc Tutorials / sources
    Matthew Lawrence - for Gyro 2.20 -
    Spike - for the align to ground code -
    Cobalt & PrimalLove for their Punching-vector-hit-codes:
    Dr. Shadowborg For the new weapons tutorial -
    Smoke2Much - For the Clusterbomb tutorial on InsideQC
    DarkSide - For the Autoaim Thunderbolt tutorial on InseideQC
    Kryten - for the exploding shotgun & the gibbable corpses tutorial on InsideQC
    Errorabove[ScI] - for the accelerating rockets tutorial on InsideQC
    bart2o - for the kickback tutorial at moddb
    Tux - for the splash tutorial on InsideQC
    Ze0 - for the footsteps tutorial on InsideQC
    Piercing Shotgun mod - Patrick Martin -
    Ryan Smith - For the Frikbot X -
    Ursader - For the Teleporting Stuff tutorial -
    James Layman - For the NailOgre Tutorial -

    TheJosh - for the explosion particle atlas

    Full Description in the readme :-)
    Have fun.

    Last edited by TheKillingJoke; 11-24-2017, 05:21 AM.

  • Dutch
    I'm digging the pixely look! Right on!

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  • TheKillingJoke
    Some new screenshots. It's cool to see that it anything slowly falls into place. Modding rocks!

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  • TheKillingJoke
    The Gibstages are polished and working for the most monsters. I decided to restrict certain death animations to specific weapons. This gives a much nicer feeling of reward, lowers the gore and the happening of gore + it adds back atmosphere, which got lost a little. So in 07 there will be less but therefore more rewarding explosions of everything. Unless you have a rocket launcher. Then everything will burn and splat and splat and frag and crack. A lot.

    I also added two new enemies and finished the skins and the painskins for the new Soldier variations. Three new weapons also found their way into the arsenal. I balanced them as good as i could. Damagewise they sit in between the other weapons. Though i still have trouble with those damned weapon select and weapon cycling functions. You can of course tell the mod to spawn the new weapons or to spawn them not. It is even possible to let only specified weapons spawn.

    Also i worked on the multiplayer a little bit more. I tried to make bloody skins for the player deaths, but i continue to mess them up. It must be something with the shirt and leg colors, that throws some bytes around and what you see on screen is an ugly red/black pixel mess on the dead players. But it works. Technically. And i added a 3rd person deathcam. And yes, that can be shut off by cvars as well.

    About the gore itself: I reworked some effects again and the outcome is satisfying. It looks more volumetric and is not as exaggerted as before. The same counts for the gibs. I reduced the number of flying flesh a bit and added cvars to the qore.cfg to let the player decide how many she/he wants to see. Apropros blood: There is more but the decals are less overlapping, which looks more "natural" and less trashy.

    You might also notice, that in the new gameplay videos the game looks more pixelised than darkplaces usually does. That is because i found a thread at about different render settings in darkplaces. It looks more like the original engine, well, at least as much as DP allows it. I added 3 different settings to the qore.cfg, so as soon as 07 is out, you can choose yourself which rendersetting you use. I did this because a lot of people like the grungy pixel-look of the original Quake and Darkplaces default shader-setting doesn't allow it, but the engine conatins a lot of stuff and so you can now go either full blown retro (you CAN go full blown retro and live with it ;-), retro with realtime lightning or the usual Darkplaces shaders & lightning. But the retroshader will be the default. There will also be a pixelised version of the particlefont.tga, so the particles look blocky too.

    What's left to say? Oh yes, i made no progress with the painskins, but that's on the list. Instead of adding them all in one update i will make them one by one. It's even more work the more monsters i add *sigh*. But i want those new monsters :-)

    In case i forgot to mention it: Every new addition except the gore can be switched on or off, so you can either have your vanilla-quake with gore or some enhancements.

    So what's left to do until release?
    A monster painskin (Ogre), a very small weapon balancing for the three new weapons (must do the math), fish gibs (somehow slipped the schedule), one nasty player death animation bug. Should be done & ready next week, so next friday i can release 07, if nothing get's in the way.


    General action to give an impression of how the gameplay can look now:

    The first new enemy : A low tier enforcer variant, shooting bouncing acid that explodes after a few moments. Not the biggest thread but don't underestimate him. The reason to add him: The low tier Quake enemy roster had no one who shot grenades.

    The first mid-tier enemy: Nail Ogre. I put the knights helmet on his head and gave him a Quake 3 Arena-like nailgun The helmet looks a little goofy. But cool thing, definetly adds a fresh variation to the rythm and tact of the Quake move-shoot-dodge-dance that Quake singleplayer is. You also can see how the new Fullbody frags particle effect will look.

    That's it for now, have a nice day.
    TKJ :-)

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  • TheKillingJoke
    Not in the next version, but after that there will be some. It will just render the player unable to move, as soon as the player clicks the LMB he will frag & respawn. At least that's how i though it will work. Of course the painlooped player will be free to be gibbed too. And it will be optional.
    Last edited by TheKillingJoke; 11-16-2017, 12:48 PM.

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  • wizardmachine
    Hey, TKJ!

    Nice to see some progress on the player gibs for multiplayer. I hope these will include painloops too

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  • TheKillingJoke
    Thanks. They are free for everyone to use. I think the link to the source is in the readme, if you want to have them for your own mod.

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  • Dutch
    I LOVE the bloody sound effects!

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  • TheKillingJoke
    So here's an update on the workflow for qore v07.
    Between watching The Quake Grave and Icarus Doom Mod madness, real life and all other stuff i managed to add these things to Qore:

    I managed to make it this far:
    - Frikbot added. For shits 'n giggles, also because wizardmachine had the cool idea of expanding the gore to the multiplayer part of quake, a thing that i originally didn't want to do but because of recurring tremendous idleness-seizures. But it's a great idea!

    - Player & bot dismemberment on death & different gib parts for legs, arms, torso & variations. Still need more variety but works without problems in botmatches (Hell, i'm soooooooo bad at multiplayer, a wonder that i manage to play the most maps at skill 3). Also wizardmachines idea. And it is a great idea, because i had a lot of fun while the frikbots (on skill 0) over and over handed my arse to me. Well, that was good for testing :-)

    - I added cvars for enemy abilities, so you can switch on and off their new abilities if they annoy you or you like the vanilla monster gameplay.

    - Also, if a grunt has another weapon than the standard shotgun, his skin changes. In Qore he can use Super Shotguns and Nailguns too, so those guys have now a slightly different skin. Just enough to see the difference and i'm fairly happy with it, it doesn't look flashy or too different from the original skin. As the mod grows, i will do that for other monster variations too, should there be some.

    - Currently i work on remaking all blood-skins for gibs & bloody death variations, which will take a while. The Soldier is already done and then there are only 10 other monsters to take care of, each with 7-13 skin variations, so it may take a while.
    The new blood skins fit the dark blood tone of qore very good and if you frag a grunt now, the bloddy mess is much better looking.

    And that are just the main things i did, here are the others:

    Changes for update v0.7

    - added preset qore.cfg files for different playstyles (faithful to the original gameplay but with gore OR with the most kinky other stuf i added so far).
    - Added cvar for the amount of gibs that are dropped by players
    - added different skins for the different soldiers (nails/shotgun)
    - added the missing dismemberment bleeding effects for the Fiend/Demon
    - Metal sparks added to hit effects for Knight and Hellknight
    - enemies will more often get pushed back on death
    - added a batch file to start qore
    - found out that the footsteps cvar didn't work as it should, fixed it
    - reworked the gib velocities and mass
    - increased the chainsaw damage by 20 points per frame to make it actually useful
    You still need a heckton of skill to use it as a weapon
    - fixed the dead-dog slide bug
    - hopefully fixed the knight invulnerability bug
    (not entirely sure its gone, but i shot a hundred knights without seeing it happening)
    - reworked some of the blood effects
    - Added a new shotgun: Projectiles pierce monsters
    I know there is already a nice double-barreled, but i added this new DBS because: Fuck yeah, Shotguns!
    - The single barreled shotgun fires now 8 instead of 6 pellets

    What's left to do:

    Bloodskins for all other monsters, fishgibs, balancing & code for the first added weapon, blood particle effects for the player, some other death variations for the player with animated gibs. Not much in the list but it will take a few weeks to fninish and polish it.

    I've been asked if i will add new weapons. Yes, i will, but very slowly and carefull, because it's easy to break the gameplay of Quake and i want the weapons to be balanced as good as possible. Indeed there won't be any modern rifles or machineguns or laser rifles, mostly shotguns and other stuff that fits into the theme and world of Quake. Also it will be possible to play only with the vanilla weapons or allow only selected new weapons to spawn. Also, i won't replace any of the vanilla models, so everybody can use her/his replacements or highres skins. And there won't be any ironsight-function. Reloading will be a function for some of the new weapons for the sake of performance.

    In the first video you can see the new gibstage-thingy (shoot dead monsters repeatedly to shoot them into smaller chunks), and the new blood skins for the soldier. In the second video you can see soldiers taking vengeance on me, shooting the player into gibs. The player Bloodskins have still to be polished and some additional particle effects are still missing, but it works quite well so far.
    You might also notice, that i work on the weapon sound effects to give them a more hefty punch. A matter of taste, but i think for the shotgun and the nailgun i did a good job. The weapon sounds will be available as independent download here on as soon as they are finished. If that will ever be the case.

    Gibstages, new bloodskins & weapon sounds:

    Player gibs & frags under construction:

    Cheers, Hals und Beinbruch,

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  • TheKillingJoke

    - fixed the bugs that where mentioned for v0.6
    - added cvar to switch double-jump on/off

    - finished the damage models for 7 of 10 monsters who will have them (bloody textures and code still waiting to be done). A funny thing: While testing the first working version with the grunt, it happened from time to time, that other grunts shot their damaged comrades, dissassembling them further. So with v0.7 monstters will also be able to paint the walls red, when they hit other monsters. Have some visuals:

    - worked on the full body gib particle effects. Looks definitely better in my opinion. But that's a matter of taste. I still want a misty blood cloud.

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  • TheKillingJoke
    A quick 'n dirty look at the next big content of this mod after i got rid of the current bugs:

    The player will be able to shoot monsters to pieces. Bit by bit. But as said, first i iron out the bugs, then i can start to work on this. Oh, and probably i will implement the frikbot and work on the multiplayer part a bit.

    So have a look at the earliest working version of dismantling if you want:

    oh, that's gonna be sweet if i get it to work properly

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  • TheKillingJoke
    "some times dogs still freeze in the air"
    I call it "The frozen Dog of the new years moon"
    And if i don't find the reason why it happens, i will call it a feature.

    Nah, seriously: If i find the reason for that bug it's ok. The Ogre head and Torso will be fragable in the next version. The same counts for some other gibs, like some Shambler body parts.

    Thanks for your reports and have a nice day! :-)

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  • zpimp
    first, what do you have in mind for the mod, eventually?
    i have read the readme it clearly states its darkplaces only, my bad

    about 0.6 this far:
    gibs now can be shot with shotgun and moved, very nice, this gives it more realism
    i think the ogre head gib, cant be shot, it stays still
    the gib with torso and head seems kinda big

    some times dogs still freeze in the air

    i tried on every difficulty level, and soldiers can have grenade launcher an super nailgun, this seems is kinda hard for easy

    will test more

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  • TheKillingJoke
    Well, the reason you only can start it with darkplaces is, that it only runs with darkplaces :-)
    Maybe you want to take a look at the readme file.

    Edit: V 0.6 is here :-)
    It's growing and growing... maybe i someday get near to what i have in mind for this mod.
    Last edited by TheKillingJoke; 10-26-2017, 08:19 PM.

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  • zpimp
    what engines do you play on, i can only get it to work on darkplaces
    not working on quakesparm, fitzquake, ezquake

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