Authentic Model Improvement

[NightFright]

Chillo seems to be busy, if not obsessed, with dishing out one Doom/Blood/etc enemy voxel after the other. AFAIK he hasn't released any of them yet, but the quality level seems almost extraterrestrial and I don't know how he manages it. Anyway, I doubt he has much time for Quake these days.

[osjclatchford]

I know what you mean. I had little expectation that we'd get as much content as we have. thank god for chillo and the others who unknowingly contributed, eh? its a thing of beauty now! but you cant help but want a better shubbie and a "perfected" vore as well... still you never know what might yet turn up. I mean, chillo came out of nowhere and threw stuff out like crazy. who knows, someone else might fancy a bit of quake modelling one day and we might be pleasently surprised with a few more options!

[NightFright]

It's not only about higher polygon count and better skin. If the animations are wrong or bad, you can still trash the entire thing. But well, we already collected a lot, actually. I never thought it would be much more than Capnbubs' initial three models.

[osjclatchford]

If thats the oldone.mdl replacement I remember it was not good...

it was pretty rough and added nothing to the original model. I think it had more poly but the arrangement made it look squarer and less organic somehow...
also it only had an eternal, large, non quake pallette skin that was not exactly wonderful.
I think it was intended for qrack or dp exclusively so not ideal for this project, and as NF says, md3 is the wrong format.
damningly I cant find a pic now...

its a shame because if it were mdl format, I'd've given it a go of making a skin that matched the clssic id1 one...

nevermind...

[NightFright]

There is one uploaded at Quaddicted, but it's useless since it's an md3 or something, nothing that Q1 can read. I also can't say anything about its quality. It should be very close to the original, ideally even using the original skin (but not a must - just look at Skiffy's amazing Shambler).

[Tea Monster]

I swear someone did a shub model.

[NightFright]

It's mentioned in the Github readme.

Not everything listed there would really need a remake, though. The Electric Eel from DoE is pretty good already, for example.

I would say the following remodels would still be nice to have:
- ID1: Scrag headgibs (fitting to our model), Shub, Biosuit
- HIP: Centroid, Gremlin, Armagon, Wetsuit
- ROG: Wrath, Guardians, Hephaestus/Lavaman, Mummy, Overlord, Anti-Grav Belt, Plasma Cells (x2)

[Tea Monster]

Just out of curiosity, what is missing from the pack?

[osjclatchford]

fair enough.
but thanks for pointing out the flaws. (in truth didnt have my glasses on!, I know thats pretty stupid...)

although its not going in the pack here I'll post the screenie of my resultant work to it nonetheless.
https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/f3...551k72f1zg.jpg
I think it came out ok in the end.
designed to work with the model viewed at fovs of around 100 or 110 as lower fov's break the illusion but its great for what i want.

I +/- managed the centre version too.
https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/a9...unq1qpx6zg.jpg
this is fine on any fov. I know you're not using it. just thought I'd share the pic for shits and giggles...

[NightFright]

While I appreciate the effort, I feel like this last shotgun edit doesn't bring anything new to the table. While the SSG and SNG skin edits helped to add more authenticity, that doesn't happen here.

On top of that, the skin trick is kinda visible if you look closer, also adding a thin seam at the transition line from rear grip (?) to barrel. I can also see a few pinkish pixels which weren't there before.

While most, maybe even all of the issues could be fixed, I think the shotgun is just fine the way it is right now and any effort to push it even further would mean taking it over the top.

[osjclatchford]

well, to make it more worth you're while you could add this to it if you wish?
http://www.mediafire.com/file/bx505d...ndtop.zip/file

its a version of the new deware sg but with the top of the rear part altered to make it look rounder, heres a pic:
https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/e9...dl2quycvzg.jpg
its only a skin edit, but like on the gl and proxgun it works to improve the illusion of a curved surface to the model...

[NightFright]

Even better! I was actually willing to settle with Dwere's offering for the SSG, but after seeing those edits of yours, I wonder how I could ever live without them.

Well, maybe there will be another release before the end of the year after all. My hopes are not high for either Chillo or capnbubs to report back, but hope dies last.

[osjclatchford]

no worries, Ive updated mods for less but its there when you're ready.

I'm just glad you like it. I guess I totally got what you meant then!
oh and its just as well you've not included yet, as ive just this minute reworked the barrel to look a little rounder at the back. see here:

https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/07...oe5ncvytzg.jpg

same dl file link as above for the file itself...
I guess thats all done then.

its been fun. i just hope we hear from capnbubs or chillo soon...

[NightFright]

That's actually pretty good, brings the SSG a lot closer to the original. Sadly, I cannot make a new release just for this, so it will have to wait a bit before it finds its way into the collection.

In the meantime, I have switched the ModDB entry from addon to mod, which fits a lot better. Also took a few nice screenshots for the occasion.

[osjclatchford]

well, dont shut up shop JUST yet.

I remember you saying in the past you were not 100% on the look of the ssg so I had a go at making another "compromise" skin for it!
blending elements, colours and themes of both to create something in between that should please most parties.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/xdf2uc...sg_02.zip/file
the issues needed fixing for 100% authenticity have always been the lack of blue tone and the form of the rear recievers.
see this pic and see if i've read your mind or not:
https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/41...oe5ncvytzg.jpg
left is dewares, middle is id1 and right is my compromise skin.
(just fyi Ive also altered the size and shape of the model a bit to match too)

is that what you meant?

I myself am still using dewares as I think its better but ive been enjoying working on these so i thought I'd see if i could pull one more out of the bag in time for christmas! LOL!