Quake I, II, III, or IV?

[Dr. Shadowborg]

Quake is number one for me. (Enemy set was surprisingly well designed, when you consider what each enemy does. Weapons are stock blah and kinda on the weak side though. Not id's fault though, technical specifications back then dictated the fewer, tougher enemies formula. Modding / mods are also rather satisfying)

Quake 2 is somewhat of a total disaster IMO, due to far too much blah techbase (oddly, doom techbase never bothered me much), coupled with a blah enemy set (Berzerkers just don't intimidate as much as Fiends and Shamblers do...) and blandish / annoying weapon behavior. :/ It's also for the most part a total pain to mod for. Player movement was kinda cool though. Might have been cooler if you'd ended up breaching the surface defenses and then fighting your way to the core through the ancent ruined remains of Stroggos civilization and finding out the dark secrets of how the Strogg came to be...with the enemies becoming more alien and different from the cyborg "grunts".

Quake 3...It's okay, but UT and UT2k4 beat it down hard for me. It would have been MUCH more important to me if it had actually had a proper SP game. (like, I dunno, as portrayed in the first half of the opening? =P)

Quake 4: Never played it. Not sure I'd want to either, given its Stroggs again and they didn't do it for me in Q2.

Doom 3: I enjoyed it, but it shoots itself in the foot with some gameplay flaws. Overuse of monster closets, unvaried monsters (seriously, zombies and imps for pretty much the whole game, pinkys show up only once or twice!?), too much player pathforcing (is this a rail shooter?). Fixed gunlight powerup needed (behold the awesomeness of our lighting and shadow engine!!!11! behold it so much, we make it so you can't see jack without using the flashlight and thus can't fight!111!), grenades should have been offhand weapons. Feels kinda like a Metroid game otherwise.


ETQW: It *sounds* cool, but I don't have a computer capable of running it, so dunno.

[Krymzon 45]

Quake 2 is still cool Shambler234.

Like Quake I Quake II has been redone with a lot of HD textures thar really bring it back to like. The only thing that's really sucks about the new HD texture overhaul with Quake II is that all the enemy textures are still the same and stick out like a sore thumb. I keep waiting for an enemy hi res texture set for Quake II.

[Shambler234]

Quake 2 was (and still is) pretty cool.

Same could be said about Quake 1.

[wicked_lord]

Hmm, might have to reinstall it. I bought it when it came out, and St00p1d hounded me to play it all the time.. but back then my rig sucked and it was just another 30fps game that I had no idea how to play and made me just want to go play more Quake

Reinstalling Q3? Or Urban Terror?

[R00k]

Hmm, might have to reinstall it. I bought it when it came out, and St00p1d hounded me to play it all the time.. but back then my rig sucked and it was just another 30fps game that I had no idea how to play and made me just want to go play more Quake

[golden_boy]

ETQW is quite different from Quake and Quake 3.

It has no deathmatch, FFA or other modes. Its only game mode is objective-based teamplay (in the vein of Wolfenstein: ET or Battlefield.) But what the game does, it does excellently.

ETQW isn't about racking up the most frags, it is about playing for your team. Even newcomers can still be of use to their team by dropping medkits, repairing turrets, capturing (and recapturing) forward spawns or reviving people.

It ain't Call of Duty though. First of all, it's not a realistic modern warfare game. It has plasma mortars, giant walkers, teleporters and lightning guns. Second, it has strafe jumping / bunnyhopping. Third, no regenerating health.

You do unlock small upgrades to your class by completing objectives or fragging people, but these are rather basic (extra clip, flak jacket, extra grenade, etc.) You cannot unlock more powerful weapons; the unlocks are merely goodies. You always start with your complete weapon loadout (knife, sidearm, main gun, grenades, and class-specific tools (charges, mines, hack tool, repair tool, revive tool, medkits...)

The factions, GDF (humans) and Strogg are asymmetrical. Much like in Starcraft. The Strogg have a strafe-capable hovertank and the Icarus jetpack, while the GDF have an amphibious anti-air tank etc. In the same vein, GDF medics can insta-revive and deploy ammo/health crates, while Strogg medics can create spawnhosts (spawn points) from dead enemies so Strogg fighters can spawn right back into action. These small asymmetries between the factions make the game a lot more interesting.

The maps are rather varied, some have vehicles, some don't. Not surprisingly, the latter proved more popular in tournaments. There are many different types of objectives - construct something, destroy something, hack something, escort a mobile command post or carry something into the goal. A map will have about 4 different objectives in sequence, plus a wealth of minor objectives that might open new attack routes etc.

One team will always attack while the other defends. GDF and Strogg play slightly different on attack and defense. As your team completes objectives, you gain more territory which you can use to deploy turrets etc.

It is overwhelming in the beginning because of the sheer amount of stuff going on, but it's actually a pretty good game. Don't judge it hastily - it is an id game after all. Try with bots - they are incredibly good, just like the Q3 bots.

I recommend playing a Medic, since you can then heal yourself and others, as well as get frags.

Unfortunately ETQW isn't on Steam because apparently Zenimax and Activision can't get their crap together. It has free demos though.

[wicked_lord]

Urban Terror News : Cats : Urthd

I wanted to hold off on going back to Urban Terror gaming until UrT HD came out...

OOOF! HD? NICE! I am all about rocking in Urban Terror, I actually just got done playing it. I'm in a hotel here in Jeffersonville, Ohio and they have U-verse AT&T bs, but the ping's are not bad compared to most hotels. I was pinging 30 at a Chicago server just a moment ago. anyway i'm packing up and headed out be home friday for some gibs. Krymzon 45 hoping to see you on friday at CAX for some fresh Qake, you to mindz & rook

[wicked_lord]

I rocked the Urban Terror scene back during 2.7 version days,quit pre 3.0!
when I fire it up Urban Terror memories come back. My kids even played that game with me, to the point where I would play into the keeping the game fun for hours on hours and when I was ready to quit for awhile, I'd just open fire with aim included and at times I would feel guilty,mostly due to I would purposely wound wound wound and never boom headshot, and I would witness frantic mouse movements trying to locate me, but im way down town barely exposed. grape

Sniping across Abbey and Casa, and my favorite map of all time, mafakkin Rammelle and wow. Thanks for this.

Got SR8 and Bunny Hop? Why yes, I do.

I'm going to setup a Urban Terror server. Gotta figure out the Linux part of it first. I've read the install but linux = jibberish!

[Mindf!3ldzX]

Urban Terror News : Cats : Urthd

I wanted to hold off on going back to Urban Terror gaming until UrT HD came out...

[Krymzon 45]

Agreed R00k.

I downloaded Quake Live when it first rolled out expecting some great gameplay and was greatly disappointed in every way. I played it for maybe 3 matches and then I just went back to Quake III.

[Krymzon 45]

Right.

There's not nearly as many servers kicking ass like there used to be and that's thanks to all these next generation consoles sporting Killzone and Call Of Duty. Most people are all about the whole I want realistic warfare shit in my game and that's fine but hell if you need it to be absolutely realistic then maybe you should join the military is what I tell em. I Have played my share of Killzone 3 and Call Of Duty Black Ops, Black Ops II, Ghosts and I still have more fun playing Quake. It seems like almost every single year there is a new Call Of Duty coming out before the one before has even began to settle in but Quake has always stuck to being Quake. The only change is the graphics and mods that update the gameplay and that is a damn good game to be around as long as it has and is still being worked on by the community and made better day by day in one form or another. All these newer games need to take some lessons lol.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

I rocked the Urban Terror scene back during 2.7 version days,quit pre 3.0!
when I fire it up Urban Terror memories come back. My kids even played that game with me, to the point where I would play into the keeping the game fun for hours on hours and when I was ready to quit for awhile, I'd just open fire with aim included and at times I would feel guilty,mostly due to I would purposely wound wound wound and never boom headshot, and I would witness frantic mouse movements trying to locate me, but im way down town barely exposed. grape

Sniping across Abbey and Casa, and my favorite map of all time, mafakkin Rammelle and wow. Thanks for this.

Got SR8 and Bunny Hop? Why yes, I do.

[R00k]

I have Q3, bought the linux version back in 2002 for $15, ripped the game data, updated the exe to windows version for free. I DO prefer q3 over Quake Live,
mainly because once a game establishes weapons/physics its weak to have it altered. I would compare Quake Live to Quake3 in the same fashion as QW compared to Quake.

I also have ET:QuakeWars and ya I never really got into it.

[wicked_lord]

I play regular Quake III from my disc. I never really got into Quake Live that much.

I'm surprised as there are very little server's for Quake 3 these days. Every time i load up Quake 3 i find maybe 160 server's and most of them show up as Urban Terror 4.1 server's. I have the steam version because my Quake 3 disc is in storage somewhere tucked away.

[Krymzon 45]

Quake III

I play regular Quake III from my disc. I never really got into Quake Live that much.