[Legend]

Been playing through beyond belief and abyss of pandemonium lately.

I noticed that when I press the button that I bound to impulse 12 (previous weapon) it doesn't seem to work in these two mods. even if I type impulse 12 into the console.

It works fine for regular quake and all other mods I have been playing. Is there some sort of work around?

I'm using directq 1.8.4 btw.

Thanks.

[Seven]

Hello Legend,

"previous weapon" has been introduced with Quake 1.06.
Maybe you didnt update your Quake ? Just a guess.
Some engines add impulse 12, but some mods could probably override it.

Give it a try...

[Shadowswift]

I noticed some time ago that Qrack didn't have impulse 10 and 12. I could be wrong

[Legend]

I'm using the same engines as usual. DirectQ and Darkplaces.

Impulse 12 works fine for loading up the original levels, or other mods. So far, It's only Abyss of Pandemonium and Beyond Belief that don't seem to work correctly.

[golden_boy]

There was no "previous weapon" function (CycleWeaponReverseCommand) in QuakeC 1.01.

So almost what Seven said, only it's not the engines, it's the QuakeC.

When gnounc and I did the CleanQC 1.01 codebase, we had to add that function from Quakeworld because QC 1.06 (which most mods are based on, and which has this function) is not GPL.

Edit: If the source of the mods in question was available, the function could easily be added. It could even be added by decompiling these mods, then recompiling them. Open source FTW...

[Spirit]

https://www.quaddicted.com/engines/requiem let's you reverse cycle in any mod.

[Seven]

Hello,

Quake Update 1.06 is a progs.dat update --> QuakeC

CycleWeaponReverseCommand is the same as CycleWeaponCommand only backwards. So it was simply missing in Quake 1.01 ...
It should be no problem to add a reversed function manually, even for an unexperienced person.

What I was trying to say above (but some misunderstood due to my bad english) was that some engines add a "cycle reverse weapon feature" (can be binded to impulse 12), even when playing with Quake 1.01. Spirit just mentioned one (which seems to be his favorite ).



Regarding Abyss of Pandemonium:
Open its weapons.qc and you will see that it calls CycleWeaponCommand () with impulse 10 AND impulse 12. Correct this, so that impulse 12 calls CycleWeaponReverseCommand () and fix it.

Regarding Beyond Belief:
In its weapons.qc you will see that it lacks impulse 12 completely. Add it and make it call CycleWeaponReverseCommand (). Which is, as mentioned above, a reversed CycleWeaponCommand ().


Have fun with these really great episodes !

[Legend]

Thanks again seven.
Been having issues on figuring out how to open up the sources.

Is the source for both of those in one of the pak files? Otherwise, I don't see them in the folder I downloaded for either.

[Legend]

Probably a crazy question, but think if I had the mp1 and added "-hipnotic" before -game aop or bbelief, it would load the updated progs from the mp and enable the previous weapons?

*edit

nm. Got to try it out. doesn't work.

SO if I could get the source from those, All I would have to do is figure out how to decompile then recompile them? Would just doing that actually work? Or would I have to add the code seven said? Which is the easiest program to do so?

And where would I find the source for them? And Zerstorer?

Thanks.

[Seven]

Hello Legend,

We already spoke about different mods/progs.dat´s and why it is not possible to use 2 "together" at the same time here.


I fixed Beyond Belief´s missing 'impulse 12' (= switch to previous weapon) and added the standard engine independent things into it:
- added "Previous weapon" (impulse 12) support
- player footsteps sounds
- corrects nail position for nailguns
- entity issue fixed that prevented the player from escaping the spike trap if using a modern engine

DOWNLOAD


The source for bbelief is available at quaddicted. You can do the same to other mods which lacks 'impulse 12' support (Zerstorer is not one of those) or want to edit them in any other way. If you do not find the source, you can always try to decompile it with FrikaC´s decompiler. Search for "frikqcc27" and you will find it.


Best wishes and have fun.