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  • Mindf!3ldzX
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    Originally posted by syluxman2803 View Post
    well, then thats the question:

    "should the hook be kept just to appease players?"

    my answer would be no, because change makes things new, gives players the opportunity formulate new strategies and can level the playing field between new players and veterans. if i were doing it, i would remove free hook,and replace it with something like the matrix rune. alternatively, you could just make both the hook and matrix rune rare pickups.
    If you have 1,000 players at your disposal, dramatic changes can be made and there is little risk of ghost - towning the server your making those dramatic changes on.

    Example only, say there are 30 regular Rune players. The hook gets ripped out entirely with....

    -the option to turn it back on through vote-hook
    =it will always be voted back on.

    or

    -its gone entirely,*poof* being a good descriptor
    =people will just quit,point blank if you fuck the formula up that kept the active players coming back for more for 10+ years , you risk losing anywhere from 50% or higher of your player base.

    Then again,maybe i'm wrong. There is a real chance people have been QUITTING Rune's because of its remained static for X amount of years without updates,new runes, or modifications, and breathing fresh air into the mod at every possible corner would bring players back for a deep inhale of the fresh air? Could be. I just think the risk / reward should be more evened out and less risky.

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  • Shadowswift
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    Rune of Kaio-Ken

    Increases your damage and run speed by 50% for each application...also causes you to lose 5 health per second for each application. (So, Kaio-Ken x5 would cause you to lose 25 health per second. Rune-use to activate and to add a new application, rune-delete to deactivate, deletes rune if inactive.

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  • Syluxguy28O3
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    well, then thats the question:

    "should the hook be kept just to appease players?"

    my answer would be no, because change makes things new, gives players the opportunity formulate new strategies and can level the playing field between new players and veterans. if i were doing it, i would remove free hook,and replace it with something like the matrix rune. alternatively, you could just make both the hook and matrix rune rare pickups.

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  • Mindf!3ldzX
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    Originally posted by syluxman2803 View Post
    now that might be a viable replacment for the hook.
    It would also negate any ceiling/wall camping, because of the inherit requirement to keep moving in order to stay in Matrix Mode. I know anyone who has played RuneQuake has come across the occassional hooked to ceiling spam camper

    I simply don't see the hook disappearing though, it's too ingrained now. I would put my money on if the hook disappeared partially/entirely so would some players.

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  • Syluxguy28O3
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    Originally posted by Mindf!3ldzX View Post
    Rune of Matrix (allows you to walk/run on walls so long as you don't stop moving. Ceilings yes no?)
    now that might be a viable replacment for the hook.

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  • Mindf!3ldzX
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    I took a stab at some Rune idea's @ posted them over @ RuneCentral !!! I'll share one of those idea's here, to see the others you'll need to visit Rune Central And if you do visit, be sure and register !!

    Rune of Matrix (allows you to walk/run on walls so long as you don't stop moving. Ceilings yes no?)

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  • Mindf!3ldzX
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    BFG's take like 3 seconds to fire, and you're 100% vulnerable during this time,so I really wouldn't consider BFG a spam weapon? It can only be fire'd what, every 5-6 seconds?

    Removing BFG will make Zen Monk the most powerful rune in the entire Set !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You would have to rely on Rune of Teleport / Runes that setup a Telefrag.

    I think the best idea's will come from suggetions that appease 75% plus some or minus some, granted you can't make everyone happy,I do know ripping out out hook will ruffle some quakers feathers ( I'm one of them HAEHEAH )

    Gas Grenades I can take them or leave them, preferably LEAVE them due to having outstanding Grenade aiming, Gas Grenades just simply slow me the Fugg down. Same with Ricochet Rockets, it had a delay of about 1-2 seconds between firing off a 2nd shot. I always found myself just disabling the entire set of alt-weapons because of it , too.

    Fire 1 Ricochet Rocket , watch it bounce happily off enemy, while enemy pumps out 2 more Rockets than you can if you're using Ricochet Rocket whether on purpose or accident.

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  • Shadowswift
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    Eliminate spamming weapons, like Baker said. Gas grenades and BFG are lame.

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  • Baker
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    Get rid of gas grenades, eliminate free-hook and instead do "lithium hook" (i.e. "find the hook").

    And make it a manly deathmatch plus some fun mod like it originally was in the original days --- instead of gas-grenade spam-fest that uses the grappling hook as a crutch to avoid some of the elements of Quake that really make it "Quake".

    RuneQuake leans WAY to heavily towards the grappling hook. Which never bothered me skill-wise because I am a natural of that, but that factor eliminates map navigation and even things like camping valuable items as strategies --- diminishing the depth of the game very badly and makes even natural skill progression (grenade jumps, rocket jumps) no longer part of the skill set --- hence no fun and useful tricks for new players to progress to learning.

    Lithium hook (i.e. grappling hook is a findable inventory item in short supply) may actually increase the fun of being a lesser skilled player but adding an extra rare possession to be exploited.

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  • Mindf!3ldzX
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    Originally posted by Shambler234 View Post
    What about rocket shoes?
    Something close to this exists already , fire up quake and connect to ihoc.clan-rum.org , the last surviving IHOC server as far as I know of.

    bind ? +jet, and check it out. I used to BBQ people daily with the Jet

    (? = pick your button, I used shift)

    Originally posted by R00k View Post
    hoverboards
    fuck yeah, that would be awesome as shit IMO !!!!

    Originally posted by Spike View Post
    its gotta be pogo sticks, in the shape of bunnies.
    hoverboards are an awesome second best though. reminds me of slide.


    trying to imagine a pogo stick somehow in the gamelpay....making it a viable either Offensive or Defensive rune seems difficult....
    Rune of Weirdness has "Hit player with constant jumping" , its annoying as hell, much like Rune of Jumping where all opponents that can see you are forced to jump uncontrollably,thats annoying too.

    What about "Rune of Fiend Jump" , where your jump capability is changed from normal to the distance jump that deals damage??
    Last edited by Mindf!3ldzX; 07-01-2013, 05:31 PM.

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  • Spike
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    its gotta be pogo sticks, in the shape of bunnies.
    hoverboards are an awesome second best though. reminds me of slide.

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  • Shambler234
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    What about rocket shoes?

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  • R00k
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    how about roller skates?

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  • Syluxguy28O3
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    Originally posted by R00k View Post
    hoverboards
    no sonic riders BS!!!

    jk

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  • R00k
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    hoverboards

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