Metal Monstrosity

[R00k]

ya i havent updated that website in a while and just post new versions on the forums.... that link above has the newest.

[PapaSmurf]

What engine should I use with this map, and with Quoth, in general? I tried Qrack, and wouldn't run. I eventually used DirectQ, but it doesn't have all the bells and whistles. I'm looking for something other than darkplaces.

Edit: just read r00k's post above...

[MadGypsy]

Best Quake map ever (IMO)! I never play Quake (quoth) but, when I saw the screenshots I had to give this one a go. You have some serious talent, sock. Excellent work!

heads up: (typos in bold)

"One Quoth tech style monster that has gained notoriety amount(around) the Quake community is the flying monster called Bob."

"The r_speed/wpoly counts are extremely high, thou(though) not as high as the map 'something wicked' by Tronyn."

I'm not trying to correct you, just give you a heads up if you wanted to clean it up. And now you know at least one person read the entire thing.

[PapaSmurf]

I can't seem to get the sky to display properly in qrack. It just looks all white.

Edit: Here's a picture


If I noclip to a certain distance, I can see some of the skybox. I tried fiddling with r_farclip by increasing it to 16384, but that made what little of the skybox i saw go away.

Also, why are the enhanced rocket trail particles so pixelated?

[Johnny Law]

What engine should I use with this map, and with Quoth, in general? I tried Qrack, and wouldn't run. I eventually used DirectQ, but it doesn't have all the bells and whistles. I'm looking for something other than darkplaces.

Edit: just read r00k's post above...

Also when in doubt you can always check the map README. I'm pretty sure that sock always tests his maps in Fitzquake/QuakeSpasm.

[R00k]

I can't seem to get the sky to display properly in qrack. It just looks all white.

Edit: Here's a picture


If I noclip to a certain distance, I can see some of the skybox. I tried fiddling with r_farclip by increasing it to 16384, but that made what little of the skybox i saw go away.

Also, why are the enhanced rocket trail particles so pixelated?

the pixelation is using r_particle_type 1 (square particles) set to 0. (i should remove this for enhanced particles, there is always gl_texturemode...)

set gl_fogdensity to 0.03 (default is 0.153) and it should be visible... the map is so BIG that the skybox is just out of range of the default value..

EDIT:
also based on your screenshot please use vid_force_aspect_ratio (test 0 or 1) in your config.
This will make your 2d hud items adhere to your monitor's aspect ratio. not the ratio of the console resolution.
The images in your ScreenShot look vertically challenged.

[PapaSmurf]

gl_fogdensity didn't help with displaying the skybox correctly. I can only see a side of the skybox once I get far enough away from it (like when using noclip)

vid_force_aspect_ratio didn't do anything for me. I'm not sure what you think its supposed to look like. Keep in mind that I like to make the hud big as if it were 320x200

[R00k]

try turning off gl_fogenable. I can see the skybox just fine. if my fog density is too high all i see is white.... did u make a folder in /quake called metmon then put the pak0 in there, then run -game metmon -quoth -mem 128
i dunno, what else is wrong.

[PapaSmurf]

try turning off gl_fogenable. I can see the skybox just fine. if my fog density is too high all i see is white.... did u make a folder in /quake called metmon then put the pak0 in there, then run -game metmon -quoth -mem 128
i dunno, what else is wrong.

This is my commandline:
glqrack -mem 128 -heapsize 64000 -game metmon -quoth +exec sp.cfg +map metmon

It doesn't look like fog is what is causing it, since the sky becomes visible when I get further away, not when I get closer. And when it does become visible I see one whole panel of the skybox, for example, in that picture I posted you see two side panels of the skybox being displayed, but not the top panel, the bottom panel. I will try fogenable.

gl_fogenable 0 fixed it.

[Krymzon 45]

How is it?

Is this worth the download? Or should I wait for a later version if it has bug right now? It looks great and different.

[talisa]

its a great map which you should definitely give a try.

only thing when using darkplaces is to use parameter '-game quoth' instead of '-quoth' like it says in readme.
but i could run it fine in DP

[vegetous]

@rook;

The latest Qrack version gives me this error when I try to load the map.



This is a a fresh Quake install with only Qrack and Quoth. I'm using Windows 7 64bits Ultimate with a AMD HD series graphics card.

The line of command: glQrack.exe -width 1920 -height 1080 -bpp 32 -heapsize 64000 -game metmon -quoth +map metmon


Edit.: just found out that I got this error with any quoth map!

[R00k]

try -mem 128 instead of -heapsize 64000
theres also a newer version http://www.quakeone.com/qrack/dist/Qrack_4497.zip

[vegetous]

Skyboxes not working in this map for me too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpPtOUjQGl0

My cfg:

// Generated by Qrack

// Key bindings
bind "TAB" "impulse 10"
bind "ESCAPE" "togglemenu"
bind "SPACE" "+jump"
bind "+" "sizeup"
bind "-" "sizedown"
bind "/" "impulse 10"
bind "0" "impulse 21"
bind "1" "impulse 1 "
bind "2" "impulse 2 "
bind "3" "impulse 3 2 "
bind "4" "impulse 4 3 2 "
bind "5" "impulse 5 4 3 2"
bind "6" "impulse 6 5 4 3 2"
bind "7" "impulse 7 6 5 4 3 2"
bind "8" "impulse 8 6 5 4 3 2 "
bind "9" "impulse 250"
bind "=" "sizeup"
bind "\" "+mlook"
bind "`" "toggleconsole "
bind "a" "impulse 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1"
bind "c" "+movedown "
bind "d" "+moveup"
bind "f" "flashlight"
bind "q" "+moveleft "
bind "s" "+back  "
bind "t" "messagemode"
bind "w" "+moveright "
bind "x" "impulse 5 4 3 2"
bind "~" "toggleconsole "
bind "CAPSLOCK" "impulse 7"
bind "PAUSE" "pause "
bind "UPARROW" "+forward "
bind "DOWNARROW" "+back "
bind "LEFTARROW" "+left "
bind "RIGHTARROW" "+right "
bind "LALT" "+rj"
bind "RALT" "+rj"
bind "LCTRL" "+impulso"
bind "RCTRL" "+impulso"
bind "LSHIFT" "impulse 6"
bind "RSHIFT" "impulse 6"
bind "F1" "help"
bind "F2" "menu_save"
bind "F3" "menu_load"
bind "F4" "menu_options"
bind "F5" "menu_multiplayer"
bind "F6" "echo Quicksaving...; wait; save quick"
bind "F9" "easyrecord"
bind "F10" "quit"
bind "F11" "zoom_in"
bind "F12" "screenshot "
bind "INS" "+klook"
bind "MOUSE1" "+attack"
bind "MOUSE2" "+forward"
bind "MOUSE3" "impulse 8; +attack"
bind "MWHEELUP" "impulse 10"
bind "MWHEELDOWN" "impulse 12"

// Variables
_cl_color "17"
_cl_name "vegetous"
_config_com_baud "57600"
_config_com_irq "4"
_config_com_modem "1"
_config_com_port "0x3f8"
_config_modem_clear "ATZ"
_config_modem_dialtype "T"
_config_modem_hangup "AT H"
_config_modem_init ""
_snd_mixahead "0.1"
_vid_default_mode "0"
_vid_default_mode_win "3"
_windowed_mouse "1"
ambient_level "0.3"
bgmvolume "1"
capture_dir "D:/Jogos/Quake_rack/capture"
cfg_savevars "1"
chase_active "0"
chase_transparent "1"
cl_autofocus "1"
cl_backspeed "335"
cl_basespeedkey "1"
cl_bobcycle "0"
cl_bobfall "0"
cl_bobfall_scale "2"
cl_checkForUpdate "1"
cl_crossx "0"
cl_crossy "0"
cl_deadbodyfilter "0"
cl_echo_qversion "1"
cl_forwardspeed "335"
cl_gibfilter "0"
cl_gun_fovscale "1"
cl_gun_idle_movement "0"
cl_gun_offset "0"
cl_itembob "0"
cl_keypad "1"
cl_levelshots "1"
cl_lightning_zadjust "16"
cl_maxfps "75"
cl_muzzleflash "1"
cl_proquake "1"
cl_sbar "0"
cl_sbar_drawface "1"
cl_sbar_style "0"
cl_sidespeed "335"
cl_teamflags "1"
cl_teamskin "1"
cl_truelightning "0"
cl_upspeed "335"
cl_web_download "1"
cl_web_download_url "downloads.quake-1.com/"
cmdline " -width 1920 -height 1080 -bpp 32 -mem 256 -noforcemparms -game metmon -quoth +map metmon "
con_textsize "4"
crosshair "1"
crosshair_static "1"
crosshairalpha "0.6"
crosshaircolor "196"
crosshairimage "crosshair"
crosshairsize "7"
fov "115"
gl_anisotropic "8"
gl_bounceparticles "1"
gl_caustics "1"
gl_clear "1"
gl_clip_muzzleflash "1"
gl_consolefont "charset-1"
gl_contrast "1.9"
gl_coronas "0"
gl_damageshells "0"
gl_deathblur "0"
gl_decal_blood "1"
gl_decal_bullets "1"
gl_decal_count "1024"
gl_decal_explosions "1"
gl_decal_quality "0"
gl_decal_sparks "1"
gl_decal_viewdistance "256"
gl_decals "1"
gl_decaltime "30"
gl_detail "0"
gl_externaltextures_bmodels "1"
gl_externaltextures_models "1"
gl_externaltextures_world "1"
gl_fb_bmodels "1"
gl_fb_models "1"
gl_flametype "0"
gl_flashblend "0"
gl_fogblue "0.65"
gl_fogdensity "0.03"
gl_fogenable "1"
gl_foggreen "0.55"
gl_fogred "0.6"
gl_free_world_textures "1"
gl_gamma "0.65"
gl_hurtblur "0"
gl_interpolate_animation "1"
gl_interpolate_transform "1"
gl_laserpoint "0"
gl_lavasmoke "1"
gl_loadlitfiles "1"
gl_loadq3models "0"
gl_max_size "16384"
gl_mipmap_lightmaps "0"
gl_motion_blur "0.333"
gl_nightmare "0"
gl_overbright "0"
gl_part_blobs "1"
gl_part_blood "1"
gl_part_explosions "1"
gl_part_flames "1"
gl_part_flies "1"
gl_part_gunshots "1"
gl_part_lavasplash "1"
gl_part_lightning "1"
gl_part_muzzleflash "1"
gl_part_sparks "1"
gl_part_telesplash "1"
gl_part_trails "1"
gl_particle_count "8192"
gl_powerupshell_size "0"
gl_powerupshells "0"
gl_rain "0"
gl_shiny "1"
gl_smoothfont "0"
gl_subdivide_size "128"
gl_texCompression "0"
gl_texturemode "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR"
gl_triplebuffer "1"
gl_vertexlights "1"
gl_waterblur "0.5"
gl_waterfog "1"
gl_waterfog_density "1"
hostname "Brainiac"
joystick "0"
lookspring "0"
lookstrafe "0"
m_di_buffered "1"
m_di_bufsize "16"
m_directinput "1"
m_filter "1"
m_forward "1"
m_look "1"
m_noforcemparms "1"
m_pitch "0.022"
m_rate "125"
m_raw_input "0"
m_side "0.8"
m_smooth "0"
m_yaw "0.022"
pq_armor "[R]:[Y]:[G]"
pq_fullpitch "0"
pq_haverl "I have RL"
pq_moveup "1"
pq_needrl "I need RL"
pq_needrox "I need rockets"
pq_noweapons "no weapons"
pq_pent "pent"
pq_quad "quad"
pq_ring "eyes"
pq_scoreboard_pings "1"
pq_smoothcam "1"
pq_teamscores "1"
pq_timer "1"
pq_weapons "SSG:NG:SNG:GL:RL:LG"
pr_builtin_find "100"
r_bloom "0"
r_bloom_alpha "0.3"
r_bloom_darken "4"
r_bloom_diamond_size "8"
r_bloom_fast_sample "0"
r_bloom_intensity "1"
r_bloom_sample_size "256"
r_celshading "1"
r_drawflame "1"
r_drawviewmodel "1"
r_drawviewmodelsize "1"
r_dynamic "1"
r_explosionlight "1"
r_explosiontype "1"
r_fastsky "0"
r_fastturb "0"
r_glowlg "1"
r_grenadetrail "1"
r_interpolate_light "0"
r_lavaalpha "1"
r_novis "1"
r_outline "1"
r_outline_surf "0"
r_particle_count "2048"
r_particle_scale "1"
r_particle_type "0"
r_powerupglow "1"
r_rocketlight "1"
r_rockettrail "3"
r_shadows "1.10"
r_simpleitems "0"
r_skybox "dusk"
r_skyscroll "1"
r_skyspeed "2"
r_telealpha "1"
r_turbalpha_distance "512"
r_uwfactor "512"
r_uwscale "2"
r_wateralpha "1"
registered "1"
saved1 "0"
saved2 "0"
saved3 "0"
saved4 "0"
savedgamecfg "0"
scr_bloodsplat "0"
scr_centerprint_levelname "1"
scr_centersbar "0"
scr_conspeed "900"
scr_printstats "0"
scr_printstats_length "0.5"
scr_printstats_style "1"
scr_sbaralpha "0.1"
sensitivity "3"
skill "2"
slist_filter_noplayers "1"
sv_sound_land "demon/dland2.wav"
sys_disableWinKeys "0"
sys_highpriority "0"
v_gunkick "0"
v_viewheight "0"
vid_borderless "0"
vid_bpp "32"
vid_config_x "800"
vid_config_y "600"
vid_conheight "200"
vid_conwidth "320"
vid_force_aspect_ratio "1"
vid_fullscreen "1"
vid_height "1080"
vid_mode "188"
vid_refreshrate "60"
vid_stretch_by_2 "1"
vid_vsync "1"
vid_width "1920"
viewsize "100"
volume "0.7"


//-----------------------------

// DO NOT EDIT BELOW THIS LINE!
vid_bpp 32
vid_restart
vid_conwidth "320"
vid_conheight "200"

[R00k]

lower your r_farclip value, (4096) or try a higher gl_fogend value to match
or change gl_fogdensity to 0.0135 instead.