alias trouble

[Syluxguy28O3]

so im trying to alias my mouse3 to switch to the gl and fire 4 grenades, then go back to my prev weapon. so i aliased this:

alias qg "+quickgrenade;+quickgrenade;+quickgrenade;+quickg renade"
then:
bind mouse3 qg

the problem is when i use it. i push mouse3, then it keeps firing grenades until i go empty. i tried adding -attack to the end of the alias, but then it just switches to the gl and then does nothing. help?

[bluntz]

so im trying to alias my mouse3 to switch to the gl and fire 4 grenades, then go back to my prev weapon. so i aliased this:

alias qg "+quickgrenade;+quickgrenade;+quickgrenade;+quickg renade"
then:
bind mouse3 qg

the problem is when i use it. i push mouse3, then it keeps firing grenades until i go empty. i tried adding -attack to the end of the alias, but then it just switches to the gl and then does nothing. help?

alias +qg "+quickgrenade;wait;+quickgrenade;wait;+quickgrena de;wait;+quickgrenade"
alias -qg "-attack;wait;impulse 10"
bind "mouse3" "qg"
try that and let us know.

[Syluxguy28O3]

it only fires one grenade, then switches back.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

think thats proquake only?

[Baker]

my mouse3 to switch to the gl and fire 4 grenades

Cannot be done. Final answer.

Reason: An alias can set an attack state, but does not know when an attack is completed. What you are trying to do is absolutely, unequivocally impossible. It is not even possible to make a reliable alias to fire even just 2 grenades, the alias would have to kludge through several client frames trying to guess when an attack is completed to try to fire another one, and this on the client varies by frames per second.

[bluntz]

What you CAN do is change weapons, if you combine quickgrenade with quickrox it will fire both without having to wait for the attack period for the GL but you will have to wait the attack period for the RL after you do this.Also you will have to press it again or it wont switch back to GL.
I dont see why you can not just push the button 4 times to get 4 grenades off.

[Baker]

What's funny is that a quick grenade bind isn't even assured of throwing even one grenade --- except that if you hold it long enough, it will.

Try this: load up start map, fire a rocket and immediately press a button/key bound to a quick grenade but let go really quick.

If you did it fast enough, no grenade was fired because the refire rate of the next attack hasn't been hit after firing the rocket.

[Syluxguy28O3]

oh well. thanks for the help!

[Mindf!3ldzX]

The GL's faster refire rate than the RL is why I usually lead off my attack with a GL followed by a RL. Especially in water...

[bluntz]

I have the the quickgrenade alias combined to quickrox and it tosses 1 gren followed immediately by a rox and works just fine.I usually see a WTF was that from the enemy all the time.

[R00k]

Cannot be done. Final answer.

this works for me...

alias "w5: wait;wait;wait;wait;wait"

alias qf "+attack;w5;w5;w5;-attack;"

alias +qgf "impulse 6;qf;w5;qf;w5;qf;w5;qf;w5;qf;w5;qf;w5;qf;w5;qf;"
alias -qgf "-attack;"

bind mouse3 +qgf


I had to use 8 calls to qf maybe i should add some more waits... but 4 nades fly and then it stops

Personally I dont like using alias commands like this, it waters down your control in-game.

[Syluxguy28O3]

eh, i dont think i care about this enough to try ur suggestion rook. but thanks anyway!

[Mindf!3ldzX]

this works for me...

alias "w5: wait;wait;wait;wait;wait"

alias qf "+attack;w5;w5;w5;-attack;"

alias +qgf "impulse 6;qf;w5;qf;w5;qf;w5;qf;w5;qf;w5;qf;w5;qf;w5;qf;"
alias -qgf "-attack;"

bind mouse3 +qgf


I had to use 8 calls to qf maybe i should add some more waits... but 4 nades fly and then it stops

Personally I dont like using alias commands like this, it waters down your control in-game.

Rook for MVP.

[Baker]

this works for me...

alias "w5: wait;wait;wait;wait;wait"

alias qf "+attack;w5;w5;w5;-attack;"

alias +qgf "impulse 6;qf;w5;qf;w5;qf;w5;qf;w5;qf;w5;qf;w5;qf;w5;qf;"
alias -qgf "-attack;"

bind mouse3 +qgf


I had to use 8 calls to qf maybe i should add some more waits... but 4 nades fly and then it stops

Personally I dont like using alias commands like this, it waters down your control in-game.

That is gonna behave differently at say 72 fps versus 600 fps, because "wait" delays for a single frame.

With 72 fps, that "wait" delay will be 13 milliseconds, but at 600 fps it will be 1.5 milliseconds. It won't behave identically one Quake config to the next.

[Spike]

the wait command is evil and will stop +forward etc from working in the interim.