DarkPlaces Newbie Questions

[Mr.Burns]

Hello to all the DP gurus out there.
I was wondering if one of you would be kind enough to tell me what the equivalent DP console command is for Proquake's test command ? For example, if I run Proquake and type the command below I get a listing of who is currently on the server (in this example its the damage server in the UK), and some additional information about the server.
Command

test damage.servequake.com.

Typical Output

test damage.servequake.com:26000
Setting port to 26000
Polarite
  frags:  2  colors:4 4  time:180
  123.456.789.012
Mr.Burns
  frags:  87  colors:6 6  time:280
  123.456.789.013

Needless to say the above example has been heavily edited
If I try this is in DP it doesn't work. I did check the DP FAQ but it only seemed to have "net_slist" and as I'm not currently on a machine with DP I'm not sure it will give me the same information on non DP servers, so any helpful suggestions would be much appreciated

Many thanks

Monty

[PrimalLove]

@Burns

Unfortunately no. This is a pretty cool cmd too! I'll investigate further.

[Seven]

Hello Mr. Burns,

I am by far no multiplayer and have zero experience.
Apropos told me that "status" might be what you want.

When starting or connected to a multiplayer server and then type status into console, the exact same infos are shown as you quoted in your post.

The only issue seems to be that you need to be already connected, which maybe makes it obsolete I guess ?

Just an idea. But I am sure others will drive by and post the correct answer/command.
Best of luck.

[Mr.Burns]

Thanks for the responses guys. I was toying with the idea of making a DP friendly version of Polarite's excellent and simple quick server browser utility which uses the test command as it's backbone. Alas it's back to the drawing board I guess.

Thanks again
Monty

[Mr.Burns]

Another newbie question if I may, I was trying to do some testing on the new particle capabilities of SMC this evening and thought the old Start map would be a familliar place to start. Normally if I go in to any other Quake client (proquake, Qrack, EngineX, DirectQ) and type map start I get the familiar start map....
However, in darkplaces I get something completely different....

Any ideas why?

Kind regards

Monty

[slackhead]

Another newbie question if I may, I was trying to do some testing on the new particle capabilities of SMC this evening and thought the old Start map would be a familliar place to start. Normally if I go in to any other Quake client (proquake, Qrack, EngineX, DirectQ) and type map start I get the familiar start map.... However, in darkplaces I get something completely different....

Any ideas why?

Kind regards

Monty

Strange. I get the normal start map with DP. What command line are you using to start the game?

[Mr.Burns]

Hi SH,

Currently it is as follows:

darkplaces -game darkplaces -nocdaudio -bpp 32 -mem 128

Also it's Darkplaces from 13th May 2014

Kind regards

Monty

[PrimalLove]

why are you using -game darkplaces? are you loading the dpmod? Or is darkplaces folder where you keep SMC? Also lemme see your condump. Thanks.

EDIT: Also remember whatever game folder you load it will load files from there first. So if you have a start.bsp in your darkplaces game folder that isn't the same as id1 start.bsp it will use the one in your game folder.

[slackhead]

Try without the "-game darkplaces". I don't think I even have a darkplaces folder, but there is a dpmod

[Mr.Burns]

The -game darkplaces is just something aimed to stop cross polution of configs as I use different engines for different purposes (sp, mp, video production, etc) and have had issues in the past.

I've attached a Condump of me starting up DP and initialising a SP game which in turn loaded the "non ID" start map.

I hope this helps but if not I will try it without the -game option

Many thanks


Monty

[PrimalLove]

These jump out at me.

^7Added packfile id1/mod-extras.pak (66 files)

^7Added packfile id1/pak8.pak (2 files)

7^3Lovestart
^7CL_SignonReply: 1
^7CL_SignonReply: 2
^7afk entered the game
^7CL_SignonReply: 3
^7CL_SignonReply: 4
^7Compiling shader mode 2 permutation 0
^7^5GLSL shader glsl/default.glsl depth/shadow compiled (0 textures).
^7CSQC entity DB: lost a frame too early to do any handling (resending ALL)...
^7Lost frame = 1
^7Entity DB = -1 to -1
^7]condump
^7usage: condump <filename>
^7]condump startMap_dp

This shows it's LoveStart

Use something like Pak Explorer or similar to see if anything inside there is overriding your start map. Basically look to see if any of them has a map folder with start.bsp in it. Also you can use a zip porgram or 7zip to check the pk3 files to make sure they also don't have anything that is conflicting.

[talisa]

i recognise that map, its from a map-set i also have

solution: check your 'maps' folder for a map named 'start.bsp'.
you have a map there which is called start, which is why dp loads up that map instead of the standard ID1 start-map.

DP prioritizes files found seperately in folders over files in paks or pk3s, so therefor a map found in maps folder overwrites any maps with same name in paks

[Seven]

Hello Monty,

As PrimalLover said, you have another start map overriting the one inside pak0.pak.
The titel of the other start map is "LoveStart". That is what your condump tells.

To keep your setting (having a separate "darkplaces" folder) and get rid of this issue you have to:
Put your original Quake pak0.pak and pak1.pak into your "darkplaces" subfolder.
That does the trick.

You can then keep your extension: darkplaces.exe -game darkplaces and keep your config files separated in different folders. And do not need to fiddle around with searching where the overriding start map is.

Best wishes,
Seven

[Mr.Burns]

Evening all,

Firstly,Thank you to all that took the time to respond. It was much appreciated and very helpful.

Secondly for those that may encounter a similar problem in the future I hope that this may help them find a shortcut to the solution :

• Checked the C:\quake\darkplaces\maps folder and there were no files within it.
• Checked C:\quake\darkplaces and there is no progs.dat
• Checked the C:\quake\ID1 folder and there is no progs.dat
• Checked the C:\quake\ID1\Maps folders and BINGO!! there was a map called start.bsp in there. Renaming C:\quake\ID1\Maps\start.bsp to C:\quake\ID1\Maps\lovestart.bsp appears to have solved the problem. I suspect the map came from a 1000 brush map pack where it is the start map.

Once again. thank you to those that responded

Kind regards

Monty