Darren Wilson NOT indicted

[Cobalt]

Havent lived in a ghetto thankfully, but I did grow up in NY, and have seen blacks overrun decent neighborhoods and turn them into ****roach motels. Oh and they got to live there via the graciousness of section 8 privledge too. In my experience they run down anything they get, and somehow its racist if you see this happening and call it for what it is. Ask some people who reside near Ferguson and they will tell you these blacks are from a local failed housing project they got handed to them in the 50's. Yea, they ran it to the ground, just like I saw happen in NY and Im sure plenty of others have seen this happen, but you arentl allowed to say it, just let it continue I guess.

Growing up in NY I had a black friend, turned out to be just like my parents said he would be...said he would pay for a window he broke and never did. My parents didnt force their views on me, but I found out later for myself if you have a confrontation with a black, they take it like you are out to kill them and its personal. I had one of them terrorize me at work because I refused to be ordered around by one...and what they did with toxic chemicals to me would now get them locked up for terrorism for sure. Theres nothing they wont do when they get pissed off - just tune in to the TV and see for yourself. Never catch me with my back turned on one ever again. Call me racist but I call it like I see it.

If you're black or lived in a black community for any length of time and really got to know the mentality of most black people in places like Ferguson you'll find out that being black has a stigma about it that can't be shook.

[wicked_lord]

@Cobalt and PrimalLove

Killing = common sense?

I think I see the problem.

Emptying a clip or as many rounds as in this situation does NOT make sense to me. And, YES, I've had training.

Not much training obviously. Proper term would be 'magazine'.

I conceal carry daily all over this country. As a truck driver I am 10 times more likely to be robbed or attacked then a person who is home daily. I drive through and deliver in major cities such as Detroit, Atlanta, Chicago, Cleveland, Cincinatti, Jacksonville, Orlando & the list goes on.

I have been trained with the Sheriff's office. However as a civilian my attitude has changed since those days as a public servant anything can be incriminating while in a uniform. I now speak my mind because I dont worry about backlash from anyone as long as I stay between the lines of gray and white.

Not having guns in your house is your choice. Firearms dont shoot themselves. People who cant trust guns obviously cant trust themselves and this is where the mental evaluations come into play.

Feel free to reply back on this because I personally believe everyone should be constitutionally armed one way or another except mentally ill and felons.

[wicked_lord]

I can't wait till police officers start waring "GoPro"s... Then this type of thing will be less of an issue.

A white cop shoots a black MAN, that makes the cop racist?

I'm not defending anybody here but lets flip a few variables here and see if we can guess the outcome...

Lets say...

A white cop shoots a white man... Surprising? No not really. Racist? No.

A black cop shoots a black man... Surprising? No not really. Racist? No.

A black cop shoots a white man... Surprising? No not really. Racist? very much a possibility, just ask the racist people.

A black cop shoots a white man... Surprising? No not really. Racist? very much a possibility just ask the racist people.

If you're black or lived in a black community for any length of time and really got to know the mentality of most black people in places like Ferguson you'll find out that being black has a stigma about it that can't be shook.

I personally haven't lived in Ferguson but I have grown up being black and I've witnessed racism everywhere I've gone... (Alaska, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Kansas, Colorado, Georgia, Hawaii).

Racist people tend to be ignorant and throw the baby out with the bathwater without taking the time to understand things for themselves. Most grew up with racism and hate in their life and learn it from parents or they think because because 1 person of a different color has screwed them over that they're all like that and that is utter bullsh!t.

I've met and befriended many ex-racist people and even questioned them on their past racist relations and all their responses are generally "racism is stupid. I was stupid".

The reason racism exists is because racist are stupid and think their blood is "redder then everyone else" of a different color, or don't even know that America was built on the blood of true native American *Indians* (Happy Thanksgiving btw) and tell people of color to "go home".

You can't say racism doesn't exist because there are still A LOT of self proclaimed racist everywhere...

However on the case in Ferguson I do not feel this was racism at play.

I do feel this was a case of stupidity meeting up with inexperience and painting a worst case scenario.

I also feel that if Michael Brown was whiter then a sheet of paper and pulled the same suicide act he would have still ended up riddled with bullets and the whole situation would have blown over by now and instead of "a racist cop shoots a black MAN" it would be something along the lines of "Police brutality & militarization of police needs to stop."

In either case it's an outcry from we the people. Not just one specific color of humans but humans who actually want to see a change... Then you get the ignorant people who completely miss the point and mess things up for the people trying to make people aware to the true situation.

I feel that police need to be better equipped with recording evidence in order to prepare for situations like this, should always have to at least attempt to use a taser or rubber bullets to stop an aggressor or be held accountable for their actions just like the criminal has to or else we will see more and more force being used by the police. Police do not serve and protect YOU, they serve and protect the law and taking someone's life despite the color of their skin should be the very last resort in any situation unless they HAVE a weapon and are actively shooting the office or another INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY human being.

A police officer should already know they most likely will run into situations like this and should expect it at any given moment and a law abiding police officer HAS the right to return to their family after their shift... But I'm starting to question that right applies to police officers who have a suspect in custody or suspect being detained or just a suspect as I've seen a lot of uncalled for shootings and deaths at the hands of police officers who are supposed to be upholding the law.

I don't hate police officers I've actually worked close with at least 2 police officers as security officers that I'm still very good friends with who live in my state.

I don't hate anyone of any color. I do hate criminals who try to take my right to live as a human being on this earth and shit on it with their power tripping/entitled ego and that implies to all humans whether you ware a badge, suit, outfit, costume or even run around bare ass naked.

Phenom made an excellent point. Thanks for speaking up because the view you have is because you examined the situation and made up your mind as all of us should have done. Mindz claiming I am 'same team' because of my background is the reason I supported this officer has nothing to do with it. Here is a case where I wish I could have 5 seconds with each officer in a square concrete room. Lookup 'Kelly Thomas'. Death of Kelly Thomas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What they did to this man was fucking wrong to the fullest extent of the law. These officers should all be hung in public. I do not base anything off of race, evidence only.

[Phenom]

Havent lived in a ghetto thankfully, but I did grow up in NY, and have seen blacks overrun decent neighborhoods and turn them into ****roach motels. Oh and they got to live there via the graciousness of section 8 privileged too. In my experience they run down anything they get, and somehow its racist if you see this happening and call it for what it is. Ask some people who reside near Ferguson and they will tell you these blacks are from a local failed housing project they got handed to them in the 50's. Yea, they ran it to the ground, just like I saw happen in NY and Im sure plenty of others have seen this happen, but you arentl allowed to say it, just let it continue I guess.

Growing up in NY I had a black friend, turned out to be just like my parents said he would be...said he would pay for a window he broke and never did. My parents didnt force their views on me, but I found out later for myself if you have a confrontation with a black, they take it like you are out to kill them and its personal. I had one of them terrorize me at work because I refused to be ordered around by one...and what they did with toxic chemicals to me would now get them locked up for terrorism for sure. Theres nothing they wont do when they get pissed off - just tune in to the TV and see for yourself. Never catch me with my back turned on one ever again. Call me racist but I call it like I see it.

Exactly (one) of my points...

You clump ghetto/ignorant people in with all the others based on a skin tone.

There's A LOT of white people I wouldn't turn my back on, like my white neighbor for instance, he THOUGHT the pond that is on my land was his or at least "public property". He tried suing us because he said our pond was overrun water from his pond and his pond was the reason we even had a pond...

It began with him talking over a nice conversation about land & property which quickly went into him out right saying LITERALLY "This is public property I'll float on this goddamn pond if I want to." So I retorted "Go ahead and get shot." which didn't sit well with him obviously but I will not be intimidated.

So I began building a dam with the help of some family and friends:

previously to building this dam we had to build a 6 foot privacy fence against the back of our land to keep this creep from literally standing at the fence line and mean mugging my pregnant wife, my 5 year old child, my mother in-law and even my 80 year old grandmother in-law. He would also yell hateful things and even racial slurs. We had a deer cam setup to catch any activity after he was caught snooping around our property and at one point the deer cam was broken into, formatted and the garage that was close to the deer cam was broken into. WTF?

Ontop of all that we originally told this guy and his girlfriend "You can use OUR pond just let us know before hand so we don't shoot you thinking you're just some trespassing jackhole.

At one point in the building of the dam when we had finally dam'd the water on our side (we treat out pond water so it's not nasty as fuck like usual) his side of the pond which has shriveled up to about 3 tubs worth of water miraculously had a nice clean blue tint to it and the guy tried to say "The water is leaking through that dam onto my property" but the dam was made with gravel mixed in with cement. We think when the deer cam was vandalized is when he sneaked into our property with a bucket and took some of the water out of our pond and dumped it in his to prove the dam was leaking... but we had people come and inspect the dam and they told us "This isn't going to leak, he's full of shit. 10 tons of gravel and cement is going to work."

This guy never spoke a word to me though I've seen him out by our dam MANY times just creepily watching through bushes(literally) with the exception to one time while I was working up the dam he came down and said "You're throwing rocks on my property which is going to ruin my pump so stop building that dam." The rocks were tumbling through the wire fence, not being thrown, they were falling inches on the other side.

The whole time the guy was giving us hell and it got so bad our lawyer told us to postpone the dam building for a while.

We had a surveyor come out around the time the dam was finished and they said "the property line was 12 inches short on our side which meant we still had a foot of land to go which this asshole was claiming was his!

He's also said I was shooting my pistol at his 6 year old daughter, which I do shoot on my property across my pond but never if I know someone is down range of the bullets, I also never seen his daughter nor would I shoot in an innocent person's direction, I'm fucking military trained.

needless to say the dam got built despite what the fucktard was crying or creeping about.

This guy caught wind that we had money over here and made every attempt to extort money out of us so he could build his own dam.

It got to the point I had to guard the perimeter of our property armed just to make sure this guy wasn't causing anymore damage.

After he caught wind that we meant business and WOULD NOT be intimidated, were fully armed (everyone here has guns) and the fact that his pond was the aftermath of our pond WHICH is an artificially made pond with it's own water source built in and we were counter suing he eventually closed his yap and haven't heard much from him since...

The last I heard hearing I think his meth'd up girlfriend kicked him out. This guy was roughly 35 years old and was only renting his space.

However I do not think every white person is like that.

I could give some more personal experiences with white people but I seriously have more important things to do today (especially today).

Here's the final result of what had to be done (partially) The 6 foot privacy fence it just on the left of the dam but not visible from the photos.

We've put up more cameras to try to catch him in the act since the first vandalizing happened.

This guy was some **** ****** who thought he was big shit because he was a manager or some dumpy ass company.





Should I think all white people act like this guy? No that would be petty of me.



I should also mention the pics are AFTER the dam blocked the water and the pond was drained(pumped) of water to prepare to build the dam, prior to the draining our pond was twice as high and sprawled our across his land, you could actually float a boat all the way through his back property prior to the dam. These pictures do not do justice to how full the pond was.

[wicked_lord]

look where he quoted black statistics.
http://quakeone.com/forums/quake-tal...tml#post154461
I dont know I just cant see any happiness for anything being discussed on the subject in the OP.
Nothing to be proud about.

Nothing to be proud about? You are right I am not proud that someone was killed and that this officer has to live his life knowing he killed someone and now has to watch his every move to make sure he is not killed or harmed after what the race baiters caused. I did not point out blacks. The article is what I was pointing to and it refers to whites as well or did you not read it? Its sad that the seperation of blacks, hispanics, whites and orientals have to be divided over media outlets trying to stir the shit pot. I guarantee you if the media was to be barred from broadcasting or posting these things it would ease up and people would not be so hostile toward one another. I still give my neighbors sugar and milk if they ask. I am not the person you think I am or portray me to be. I work, work hard and get along with almost everyone I encounter. I greet people whether they say anything back to me or not, I hold the door for people all the time, I recently bought a black guy a $13 shower at a truck stop because 2 black guys he asked to see if they had shower credits on their petro/ta card told him to get a job and the sad part was, he had a job he just started and had not gotten paid yet. (Tried not to go this far but tough shit) Lets not forget you had your electric cut off a several months back and if I had a way to get you money while out here on the road I would have helped you out and I dont even know you personally. But yet you portray me as this racist asshole person who has to defend himself to cover my racism up. Good job Mindz i appreciate your attitude towards me.

[gdiddy62]

Not much training obviously. Proper term would be 'magazine'.

@wicked_lord
Yes, I think I will respond. Actually working in a prison I've probably had some of the best firearms training just as you with the sheriff's department, but thank you for your wrong assumption though. I work with offenders daily and also college students who have attitudes sometimes so I'm surrounded by this all day long to some extent five days a week.
Yes, my choice not to have firearms in my house is MY choice and I'm happy with it. I'm also lucky enough to live in a community in which there is no big need of fear. If I lived in a larger city I'm sure my attitude might be different? Not sure really. Not sure of your point there either to be honest.

@Phenom
Thanks for your honest logical input.

[Cobalt]

I call it like I see it. I dont have any reason to lie about my experiences with blacks. I did not originally go in with a prejudiced attitude, I let things take their own course, and every single one I have met has the attitude problem and they decide to take the offensive and terrorize the first problem that arises. As I said there is no level to which they wont stoop if they get into a confrontation. Lots of people know this, lots of people have been there and thats the stigma if you want to call it that. Its not changing no matter how many lemmings flood the street and wreck shit. The more you give them the more they take and its foolish to think otherwise but I call a spade a spade the race card of spades....thats all you will ever have as a defense is that one card and it sure looks like its being played out and the deck is about to be reshuffled. Cant hide behind it forever.

Exactly (one) of my points...
You clump ghetto/ignorant people in with all the others based on a skin tone.

[Dilligaf]

Not trying to hijack the thread... But...

Nice pond! When we get our kids through college and, hopefully out of the house, and we get a little closer the retirement, we want to sell the house in the "neighborhood" and buy some land further out in the country. Maybe Flag Pond, TN or somewhere in SW Virginia.

[Phenom]

Not trying to hijack the thread... But...

Nice pond! When we get our kids through college and, hopefully out of the house, and we get a little closer the retirement, we want to sell the house in the "neighborhood" and buy some land further out in the country. Maybe Flag Pond, TN or somewhere in SW Virginia.

Thanks, there's bass, carp and turtles in it... snakes to but they just swim across every now and then

We feed the bass dog food and they go crazy over the stuff... and occasionally you'll see a carp in the shallow end hanging out halfway out of the water, it's awesome!

I can see why the my asshole neighbor(s) wanted a slice of my heaven.

[Dutch]

EDIT: removed. Don't feel like fueling the fire. lol.

Nice backyard Phenom!