First Presidential Debate

[DeathMaster]

Oh the virtue-signaling is everywhere XD We shouldn't get rid of the illegals. Makes total sense, Hillary.

[DeathMaster]

Oh boy. Guns.

[MadGypsy]

10 minutes til debate
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[MadGypsy]

Want to bitch and complain live about the debates. Well, I created a temporary discord server for just that.

All are welcome, even if I don't like you and/or you don't like me. This is "The Debate" debate...nothing more, nothing less. Heated debates are welcome. Name calling and other disrespectful activity is an insta-ban. I will not hesitate.

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[MadGypsy]

Tonight is the 3rd and final Presidential Debate before election day. The debate will be moderated by Chris Wallace. If you have missed/skipped the earlier debates, you will not want to miss this one. Chris Wallace has a reputation of asking hard questions and sticking to them. He is not the type of moderator that is going to allow his questions to be derailed. Both Hillary and Trump are going to the slaughterhouse tonight.

Final Presidential Debate - 8pm central, on all major news networks. Approx 1.5 hours from now.

[DeathMaster]

Hillary does remind me of Pennywise, though, probably because of her malleable moral compass. She also looks like she's killed children.

[Mugwump]

Except he's more of a scary clown than a silly clown. Think more Pogo than Bozo.

[DeathMaster]

Hey man, I'd rather have a silly clown than the Joker.

[Mugwump]

Donald looks like a clown in comparison.

He doesn't need any comparison, he already looks like a clown all by himself.

[Davers]

I wonder how many Trump supporters are in the wood works here?
Ps. i am Canadian, i am just curious...

[DeathMaster]

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[nahuel]

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[DeathMaster]

It seems to me no matter what that the people opposed to Trump are going to lose. The reason why is because most millennials aren't even going out to vote.

I just asked someone the other day (a millennial) "Do you hate Trump?" Their response: "Of course! He's a racist, misogynist, rich nationalist, etc..." Question 2: "Are you voting against him?" Response: "No. I'm not voting this year."

(NOTE: the statement below is subject to change)

Same thing happened with Brexit: it had the lowest young voter turnout in years while the elderly managed to have a great run, resulting in Britain leaving the EU. In this case, the elderly/aged folk are moving towards Trump because what he's proposing sounds, at least on paper, a lot similar to Reagan in the 80's. I think the reason the younger demographics are disinterested in voting is because they were primarily drawn to Bernie Sanders, and because he's been knocked out (thanks DNC) they've decided they're not going to choose between cancer or tuberculosis. My other working theory is that if a candidate really, and I mean REALLY catches their eye, they could care less about the process and just want to see how the whole shitfest pans out. At least, I think. I'm not sure, it's an enigma how these bastards think. They're complaining about a candidate, saying they're fully willing to change their nationality if he's elected, but they're not going to at least attempt to change it? The youth of today baffle me.

[MadGypsy]

I agree that he got a lot of shots in but...

1) He loomed over her in camera shots, interrupted her and pointed at her often:
This could easily be perceived as a whole lot of negative things (...towards women)

2) For the first half hour (at least) he was often seen looking awkward while he waited to speak. She always looked comfortable and at ease.

3) He spent the beginning trying to redirect away from attacks and "stick to policy" but, then he turned around and spent most of his time slinging mud. He even (very stupidly) brought up Bill Clintons rape allegations. I could go on for quite a few minutes on why that was a terrible idea and how it could hurt him but, I'm not trying to tl;dr this post

we'll call this #4 but, I'm no sure this one matters all that much, it's just visibly awkward
4) Did someone screw a microphone arm into the side of Trump? It was often almost painful to watch him hold a mic. Like, either he can't even support the weight of his own arm or it has the flexibility of a galvanized pipe. I will add that he never sat down. When I noticed the stiffness which his arm seems to possess I wondered if he didn't sit down because it would have made him look old. Like his arm stiffness...is his back stiff? I bet he would say that he never sat down cause he isn't "low-energy" but, I bet he really didn't sit down cause he would have had to do it like an old man...cautiously and with effort. Even though Clinton has all these reported health issues, her sitting down often never came off as an old lady trying to get a moment of rest. It actually came off (IMO) as someone respectful that the floor isn't theirs at the moment.

5) Hillary is light years better than Trump at deflecting a question. She almost has it down to a point where you aren't sure if she deflected. Donald on the other hand is 100% terrible at it. I could see a lot of people feeling like she never deflected even though she did many times. His deflections were painfully obvious and often deflected to shit that wasn't even related.

To be real clear though. I don't hate Trump or even remotely like Clinton. I try so super hard to watch these things with ZERO bias... almost like I know nothing of these people and this is their introduction to me. If I wanted to be biased I could easily say "Trump won", "Trump destroyed her", "Trump made a comeback". Some of that may even be true to one degree or another but, I think there is more to this and Trump made some serious mistakes.

In the end, Donald ("You're a pooh pooh head") Trump is trying to box with Hillary (Lawyer, Senator, S. of State) Clinton. I'll admit that he is holding his own well considering but, is it enough? When she said "Donald would have you believe he knows more about ISIS than the Generals. Well, he doesn't" His visual response was "Yeah right!" [smh] nobody on this planet with at least a brain stem believes Donald Trump knows more about ISIS than "Private Ryan". It makes him look foolish.

[Rampage]

He ripped her apart in this second debate.. it wasn't even close