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  • Serious question... what side are you on, and give your reasons. No personal insults.

    So earlier I got called a terrorist or whatever for stating that I support the terrorist's fight against America. I was only half serious, since I was trying to piss paradise off and get her to say crazy fascist shit like "the government is going to take you away to guantanamo bay." Look at what this administration has done to the common stupid / ignorant working class person, like paradise. She actually thinks I should be throw in guantanamo for my beliefs.

    My interest in posting this is twofold. I want to show some people who may have been clueless as to some of the evil and hypocritical things this country has done, and I want to piss off paradise. Ok mostly reason #2.

    Here is my reasoning, I feel that it is logical and factual:

    -America is only out for its own interests. Unlike other countries the USA does not care about world cooperation. See: Bay of pigs massacre. America pulls out and leaves thousands of cuban rebels to die after promising support. Thousands of lives lost. But they weren't our own, so who cares, right? We promised support to cuba's rebels and let them die instead.

    -The American people were given 9/11 as an excuse to trash their civil liberties, and took the bait. The patriot act was signed, and the constitution - which is the legal basis of this country - was promptly shit on by the current administration. The war in Iraq was justified to the American people with two lies:
    1) Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11. This is already refuted. LIE.
    2) Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. LIE.

    -The current administration was not fired and the president was not impeached for these actions and his promotion of pro-fascist anti-american legislature and actions.

    -FEMA's empty concentration camps. Look them up. Creepy and telling of the future? Yes.

    -The government of this country cannot accomplish anything. Although it is a "republic" the elected representatives represent special interests that line their pockets. They do not represent the people. In essence, we have a puppet government run by corrupt business interests. People are sick of this, nothing gets done. Why do you think all of the democrats ran on a platform of change?
    *meanwhile, we try to promote democracy, all while we have a fakeocracy. meanwhile, we support fascist dictators and regimes. the hypocrisy is blinding.

    -The criminal justice system is inherently racist and incarcerates far more black men than white men, with worse punishments. 50% of adolescent black men will either be locked up or dead within the next X amount of years. yes, that's a real statistic. We even invented a crime to throw more black people in jail. It's called crack. It's the same thing as cocaine, except black people do crack, and when they get caught, they get 10x the punishment of little paris hilton doing some lines, who gets a slap on the wrist. But wait we live in the GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!?!! WE SEE NO COLOR!

    -Marijauna is illegal, while the pharmaceutical industry pushes thousands upon thousands of drugs to doctors and americans. The advertisements are all over TV, levitra, viagra, plexor, whatever. I guess toxic man made substances that make pharmaeceutical companies crazy money are always better than something any american could grow themselves and ingest for free. Why not make plants themselves illegal? Oh, we've already done that, with patents. Yes, people aren't allowed to sell CERTAIN PLANTS BECAUSE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES HAVE PATENTS ON THE CHEMICALS WITHIN THE PLANTS THEMSELVES IN PILL FORM. A certain kind of yeast was found to have a cholesterol lowering property. When it was found out this naturally growing yeast contains the same chemical as popular cholesterol lowering drugs, the drug companies SUED the people GROWING THE YEAST saying they had a patent on the chemical in the yeast. The supreme court upheld their lawsuit and the company was forced to go out of business. Disgusted yet? Read on.

    -America uses the CIA liberally to incite coupes and or overthrow legitimate governments. See Chile: where we MURDERED the elected communist representative of their country after our FASCIST PUPPET Pinochet was overthrown and the people got their voice, we just killed their elected representative. How can we have any moral standing in the world?
    -We have none.

    -The hypocrisy of it all. America is supposedly for freedom and liberty and blah blah blah. And yet, I don't see America's (govt) protesting China's olympics or their human rights abuses in Tibet. America supports/supported fascist dictators in the 3rd world. Pinochet, musharaff, prince of saudi arabia, contras of nicaragua, osama and saddam, etc. The list goes on.

    -President Bush's relationship with the royal family of Saudi Arabia. Enough said. Disgusting.

    -The fact that saudi arabia owns like 13%-26% of this country, through debt.

    -America has constantly agitated against and attacked muslims in the middle east. Part of the reasons fundamentalists hate the USA is because of a military base we built near one of their sacred holy cities.
    *This is why you see so many terrorists coming from Saudi Arabia. A country we support. We pissed off all the radical muslims there with our antics.

    -Does anyone remember America's funding of Osama Bin Laden, our best friend? We gave him stinger missles? Oh wait, he was our friend then, #1 most wanted now. I see how it works. Use and abuse at will and then toss into the dumpster after you change policies / piss them off.

    -Saddam Hussein used to be our buddy!

    -Does anyone remember how we played off Iraq vs. Iran against each other. These countries had one of the most digusting, dirtiest wars of modern civilization and yet IN SCHOOLS HERE THEY DONT TEACH IT. Or they skim through it. Get some fucking world perspective. They sent 13 year olds into minefields strategically against each other. We gave each side weapons, hundreds of thousands of innocent people died due to our machinations.

    -The contras in Nicaragua, who we supported, frequently butchered and attacked civilians. I guess it was ok, since they were on our side.

    -The policy of this country towards the middle east has always been: "fuck you, come get us you ignorant backwards sand ******s. you all suck and your religion sucks. we're going to westernize you, you backwards shitheads. and take those damn headscarves off. GET A FORD." Now that they're pissed and they're on the attack, they are evil, and we are the shining force of freedom and righteousness? Give me a break.

    -The american people actually eat and swallow this propaganda wholesale^^. Knowing this, it's hard not to have contempt for the average american, since he or she is stupid and ignorant of what's really going on in the world, and what this country has been doing for the past 50 years.

    I am for the underdogs, I am for the terrorists.

    And I would really LOVE to see some pro-american, flag hugging, ford f150 driving, texas living, black man hating patriot try to prove me wrong. "BUT WAIT OMICRON RACISMS NO LONGER EXISTS IN THIS COUNTRY WE R PERFECT!!"

    If you are like me, you are sick of the hypocrisy and ignorance inflicting the common man in this country, and deep down in your heart of hearts you wish the terrorists would win. Because at least they're a little less pretentious than all of these do-gooders who are really the root of all evil and everything that's wrong with the world.

    See you in europe.
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    Last edited by omix2; 04-16-2008, 02:57 PM.

  • #2
    Terrorism is societal problem in countries where people are deeply unhappy.

    People in those countries have very corrupt governments, but the problem is also that the citizens in those countries aren't evolving quickly.

    I think Iran shows a great deal of promise to evolve to the next level.

    Iran today resembles the United States of the late 1950s.

    In the 1950s, the USA had to deal with McCarthyism. Iran today is dealing with government fascism.

    In the 1950s, the USA was a few years in having atomic bombs. In Iran today, they are on that threshold. That kind of responsibility brings about change. 6 other countries in their region have nuclear weapons (China, India, Pakistan, North Korea, Russia and Israel) it is silly to say they shouldn't.

    In the 1950s, the USA was an intolerant but moderately liberal Christian country. In Iran today, they are an intolerant but moderately liberal Muslim country. There WERE political prisoners and journalists jailed in the USA in the 1950s, for those that think this comparison is wrong. There were also tons of civil rights violations in the USA 1950s.

    In the 1960s in the USA, the large swelling mass of young people changed the country. Iran has a huge population under the age of 25, most connected and educated than ever before and tiring of fascism.

    The world be fine. We -- the USA -- should stay out of it as much as possible. I think you are more upset because you don't see that things will changing dramatically when the next president takes office (We won't be in Iraq too much longer); you are right about a number of things, but you are wrong to believe they won't be changing.

    Change is the one constant in this world.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Baker
      Terrorism is societal problem in countries where people are deeply unhappy.

      People in those countries have very corrupt governments, but the problem is also that the citizens in those countries aren't evolving quickly.

      I think Iran shows a great deal of promise to evolve to the next level.

      Iran today resembles the United States of the late 1950s.

      In the 1950s, the USA had to deal with McCarthyism. Iran today is dealing with government fascism.

      In the 1950s, the USA was a few years in having atomic bombs. In Iran today, they are on that threshold.

      In the 1950s, the USA was an intolerant but moderately liberal Christian country. In Iran today, they are an intolerant but moderately liberal Muslim country.

      In the 1960s in the USA, the large swelling mass of young people changed the country. Iran has a huge population under the age of 25, most connected and educated than ever before and tiring of fascism.

      The world be fine. We -- the USA -- should stay out of it as much as possible. I think you are more upset because you don't see that things will changing dramatically when the next president takes office; you are right about a number of things, but you are wrong to believe they won't be changing.

      Change is the one constant in this world.
      I've heard that said before, and I've also heard the argument that the information age / IT age, or "dispersion of information / education" has also threatened the strict muslim way of life. As people get educated -> they get less inclined to be docile or submissive.

      But I don't think this is what they're most agitated about. America cannot control itself, and the hypocrisy and heavy-handedness with which this country conducts itself has really infuriated a lot of people.

      For example, take the french. Yes I know, everyone here hates the french, but do you ever wonder why?

      Because the average french man is educated vs. the average american works at the factory and watches Fox News. As a country, they oppose and are disgusted by our actions, they see our hypocrisy, and in turn we are propagandized to hate them.

      I once hated the french. That was in highschool, because I was programmed that way. Then I understood what this country is all about, and my opinion changed quickly.

      I realize there's a reason we are constantly warned about socialism / communism / europe and its "evils." Because Europe has SATISFIED human beings, who are EDUCATED and have DEMOCRACIES.

      While we have a fucking broken shitty corrupt system of government, with an ignorant populace. Only 20% of which vote, and 19% of that 20% are old people. So the meager representation that this country actually dishes out to its populace is to its 10% oldest and richest.

      No wonder we hate Europe. Their populace actually gets representation, and their laws aren't all legislated by people in the pockets of big business. How UnAmerican!

      Oh, and look which direction this country is leaning now that everyone realizes what has been going on with our government? Left. Towards Europe. Amusing, ironic.

      Go piss off a republican with this info.
      Last edited by omix2; 04-16-2008, 03:18 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by omix2 View Post
        I've heard that said before, and I've also heard the argument that the information age / IT age, or "dispersion of information / education" has also threatened the strict muslim way of life. As people get educated -> they get less inclined to be docile or submissive.
        Yes

        But I don't think this is what they're most agitated about. America cannot control itself, and the hypocrisy and heavy-handedness with which this country conducts itself has really infuriated a lot of people.
        The Bush administration is almost over, you won't be waiting long.

        For example, take the french. Yes I know, everyone here hates the french, but do you ever wonder why?

        Because the average french man is educated vs. the average american works at the factory and watches Fox News. As a country, they oppose and are disgusted by our actions, they see our hypocrisy, and in turn we are propagandized to hate them.

        I once hated the french. That was in highschool, because I was programmed that way. Then I understood what this country is all about, and my opinion changed quickly.
        Hate is dumb.

        I realize there's a reason we are constantly warned about socialism / communism / europe and its "evils." Because Europe has SATISFIED human beings, who are EDUCATED and have DEMOCRACIES.
        ... And have no children.

        While we have a fucking broken shitty corrupt system of government, with an ignorant populace. Only 20% of which vote, and 19% of that 20% are old people. So the meager representation that this country actually dishes out to its populace is to its 10% oldest and richest.
        The old people in this country are like the plaque that builds up in arteries causing heart disease.

        We get to watch while the social security system combined with the $40 billion/year prescription plan and Medicare bankrupt this country.

        It's really sad.
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        • #5
          Here is a picture of Hillary helping outsource all of our jobs to India, LOL. I've seen like 5 or 6 of these pictures, I can't find the one where she was pictured in India with the head of the largest outsourcing firm.

          http://bp2.blogger.com/_d9PxlbCXrxA/...ata+Smooch.jpg

          /This relates to the government selling us out.
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          • #6
            The old people in this country are like the plaque that builds up in arteries causing heart disease.

            We get to watch while the social security system combined with the $40 billion prescription plan and Medicare bankrupt this country.

            It's really sad.
            Speaking of which, why isn't trans fat banned yet? Oh yeah, because the corporations who make our food products need to use cheaper Partially Hydrogenated Oils to make a bigger profit and meanwhile poison and obesify the populace. Ever wonder what your french fries are made in? Just call it liquid death. Literally. The government allows this to go on.

            Meanwhile: Marijauna, a substance that the government still has failed to prove is toxic at all to the human body, is still illegal, and a felony in some cases. Why? The criminal justice system is a moneymaker in America. In Europe its rehabilitory. Again, we fail.

            Why aren't nitrates in meats banned yet? Because the meatpacking industry needs to color meat red cheaply, who cares if the populace gets cancer.

            Too bad Europe already banned most of these toxins like 8 years ago. Go America.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Baker View Post
              Here is a picture of Hillary helping outsource all of our jobs to India, LOL. I've seen like 5 or 6 of these pictures, I can't find the one where she was pictured in India with the head of the largest outsourcing firm.

              http://bp2.blogger.com/_d9PxlbCXrxA/...ata+Smooch.jpg

              /This relates to the government selling us out.
              And I always thought she was a good politician. What a dumbass. Why don't they show people in Pennsylvania that picture before the primaries?

              But you know what Baker, I have realized none of this is going to change significantly in our Youth(s).

              That's why I am gearing up to move to Europe. I have the money and motivation, and this summer I am already scheduled to study abroad in the Czech Republic, a country that's still kind of getting off the ground but still supposedly a great place to live.

              I don't see any future here, the dollar is getting DESTROYED and the fed is just printing money and bailing out large corporations like it aint no thang.

              The "opportunity" in this country were the opportunities our parents had. They are long gone. There is less chance for class change than you think.

              If you are working class, you have a large potential to move to middle class. Big deal.

              If you are lower middle, you might achieve upper middle, with years of education.

              If you are middle class, chances are you won't shift much at all.

              If you are upper middle, you have a very low chance of advancing to the upper class.

              The upper class is like .05% and the odds are so stacked against you to make it there in your life time, that the "potential" you have in this country is now a gimmick.

              At best you can have a decent mediocre life, but you're going to be taxed out the ass for services you won't receive.

              Currently, our roads in michigan have so many potholes that its practically inhumane. And yet over 30% of everyone's paycheck is taken. I wonder where the money is going, hmmm?

              My car has slowly gotten so wrecked that I've had to garage it, because my german suspension is getting DESTROYED by the potholes. I now need to have a "worker car" until they fix the roads. It's ridiculous. Have you ever driven on a road in which every 10 seconds, there's a fucking pothole tearing up your car? Most of which you cant dodge because theres 2 or more, on either side of the road.

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              • #8
                I'm supporting the American people, mainly because I believe the majority of the US people do not want conflict and would like to see a global peace throughout all countries.

                Omicorn, you can support terrorists if you want, thats the great thing about America, everyone has freedom of belief and verbal expressions. Though I don't support your beliefs. I don't stand in the way of people's beliefs because thats not only a privilege of living in the USA but also a humane and practical way in my eyes for everyone to be an individual and let others be the same.

                While I believe terrorism is wrong and hatred only stems more hatred, eventually theres three paths this world can go down, one would be a global disaster caused by all out nuclear war, by a catastrophic catastrophe, or everyone learns not to step on each other's feet and just live their lives how they want to live.

                either way, this "war on terrorism" to me is a front for our government to push its egotistical standards onto other countries starting with the middle east.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by omix2 View Post
                  And I always thought she was a good politician. What a dumbass. Why don't they show people in Pennsylvania that picture before the primaries?
                  I have no idea.

                  Do you realize how many times the Clinton campaign has had to donate money to charity because they got busted because some Chinese or asian money launderer broke campaign financing rules?

                  Obama's donations are small donations from American citizens. Hillary gets a lot of money from Chinese and Indian interests that want to economically infiltrate our country.

                  But you know what Baker, I have realized none of this is going to change significantly in our Youth(s).
                  We have a demographics imbalance in this country and are poorly represented in our government It would take a constitutional amendment to increase the number of representatives so the ratio to citizens is reasonable. It won't happen

                  That's why I am gearing up to move to Europe. I have the money and motivation, and this summer I am already scheduled to study abroad in the Czech Republic, a country that's still kind of getting off the ground but still supposedly a great place to live.
                  If that's what you want to do, but you aren't seeing the ultimate big picture.

                  I don't see any future here, the dollar is getting DESTROYED and the fed is just printing money and bailing out large corporations like it aint no thang.
                  Short-term problem due to failed policies and an invalid theory of economics pushed forward by the right.

                  The future here will be great, but it will take about 7-10 years.

                  Have you not seen how quickly the thinking in this country has evolved? It's really amazing to me.

                  The "opportunity" in this country were the opportunities our parents had. They are long gone. There is less chance for class change than you think.
                  Believe me, $5 gallon gas and the loss of jobs will be a wake up call.

                  The baby boomers will certainly wake up and smell the coffee when they realize their retirement savings will mean nothing if the country is broke.

                  The wake up call is coming! You just wait :d

                  At best you can have a decent mediocre life, but you're going to be taxed out the ass for services you won't receive.
                  OMG Omi, you are SOOOO wrong.

                  You don't know what the definition of wealth is!

                  Currently, our roads in michigan have so many potholes that its practically inhumane. And yet over 30% of everyone's paycheck is taken. I wonder where the money is going, hmmm?
                  Michigan has it worst of any state.

                  Ford and GM are terminally ill cancer patients like the stories you read about Bethlehem Steel. The work ethics in unionized factories and the quality of work stinks. They simply cannot compete against the Toyota and Honda's of the world.

                  Ford and GM have deeply rooted problems because their philosophy was based on the 1960s, when the USA had wealth unrivaled by any country or empire in history.

                  In 1960, the USA had a mind-blowing 52% of the world's wealth. Well, you don't base employment policies on that. That isn't going to last.
                  Singapore and Korea and even China were agricultural rice farms. Today, they are economic powerhouses.

                  My car has slowly gotten so wrecked that I've had to garage it, because my german suspension is getting DESTROYED by the potholes. I now need to have a "worker car" until they fix the roads. It's ridiculous. Have you ever driven on a road in which every 10 seconds, there's a fucking pothole tearing up your car? Most of which you cant dodge because theres 2 or more, on either side of the road.
                  I notice you are not driving an American car. The problem is the USA does not produce products that other countries want to buy. Not even us.

                  Was it Ford or GM that lost $38.9 billion dollars last year? That's more than the GDP of what most countries make in a year.

                  Btw: Thanks for starting an interesting discussion.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Baker View Post
                    I have no idea.

                    Do you realize how many times the Clinton campaign has had to donate money to charity because they got busted because some Chinese or asian money launderer broke campaign financing rules?

                    Obama's donations are small donations from American citizens. Hillary gets a lot of money from Chinese and Indian interests that want to economically infiltrate our country.



                    We have a demographics imbalance in this country and are poorly represented in our government It would take a constitutional amendment to increase the number of representatives so the ratio to citizens is reasonable. It won't happen



                    If that's what you want to do, but you aren't seeing the ultimate big picture.



                    Short-term problem due to failed policies and an invalid theory of economics pushed forward by the right.

                    The future here will be great, but it will take about 7-10 years.

                    Have you not seen how quickly the thinking in this country has evolved? It's really amazing to me.



                    Believe me, $5 gallon gas and the loss of jobs will be a wake up call.

                    The baby boomers will certainly wake up and smell the coffee when they realize their retirement savings will mean nothing if the country is broke.

                    The wake up call is coming! You just wait :d



                    OMG Omi, you are SOOOO wrong.

                    You don't know what the definition of wealth is!



                    Michigan has it worst of any state.

                    Ford and GM are terminally ill cancer patients like the stories you read about Bethlehem Steel. The work ethics in unionized factories and the quality of work stinks. They simply cannot compete against the Toyota and Honda's of the world.

                    Ford and GM have deeply rooted problems because their philosophy was based on the 1960s, when the USA had wealth unrivaled by any country or empire in history.

                    In 1960, the USA had a mind-blowing 52% of the world's wealth. Well, you don't base employment policies on that. That isn't going to last.
                    Singapore and Korea and even China were agricultural rice farms. Today, they are economic powerhouses.



                    I notice you are not driving an American car. The problem is the USA does not produce products that other countries want to buy. Not even us.

                    Was it Ford or GM that lost $38.9 billion dollars last year? That's more than the GDP of what most countries make in a year.

                    Btw: Thanks for starting an interesting discussion.
                    39 billion!??!? HOLY. No wonder they're bringing back old cars like the charger and GTO. They're practically out of ideas. They've given themselves a bad rep and "buy american" does not apply to automobiles because of it.

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                    • #11
                      I drive a 1993 Chrysler Imperial and a 1996 Chrysler Concorde, the Imperial is in desperate need of a new suspension system and the Concorde sounds like it needs light work (It makes a sound like a spring is loose) the roads in my town are HORRIBLE. some roads are cobblestone, the majority are asphalt, the rest are dirt roads. In the main part of the ground around some intersections it dips down by about 2-3 feet! Its almost impossible to drive my Imperial around on any streets but the main streets because it sets so slow.

                      This war on terrorism is an excuse for our government to tax us sky high, then once we get use to their new taxes, they will raise them again.

                      I could definitely be wrong but this is what things are seeming like.

                      Yea we probably do want the middle east to reflect our own government, maybe it IS about stopping terrorism, but I don't understand why we went over there to kill terrorist.

                      Scenario, If you wanted to get rid of an ant problem in your house, you don't go outside and start stomping on ants, you do the smart thing and stop them from coming inside, then work your way out.

                      The government is bleeding us dry so they can create a one world government and u nfortunatly, they are doing a brutally good job.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by omix2 View Post
                        39 billion!??!? HOLY. No wonder they're bringing back old cars like the charger and GTO. They're practically out of ideas. They've given themselves a bad rep and "buy american" does not apply to automobiles because of it.
                        General Motors Posts $39 billion loss:

                        http://www.usnews.com/articles/busin...lion-loss.html
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Phenom View Post
                          I drive a 1993 Chrysler Imperial and a 1996 Chrysler Concorde, the Imperial is in desperate need of a new suspension system and the Concorde sounds like it needs light work (It makes a sound like a spring is loose) the roads in my town are HORRIBLE. some roads are cobblestone, the majority are asphalt, the rest are dirt roads. In the main part of the ground around some intersections it dips down by about 2-3 feet! Its almost impossible to drive my Imperial around on any streets but the main streets because it sets so slow.

                          This war on terrorism is an excuse for our government to tax us sky high, then once we get use to their new taxes, they will raise them again.

                          I could definitely be wrong but this is what things are seeming like.

                          Yea we probably do want the middle east to reflect our own government, maybe it IS about stopping terrorism, but I don't understand why we went over there to kill terrorist.

                          Scenario, If you wanted to get rid of an ant problem in your house, you don't go outside and start stomping on ants, you do the smart thing and stop them from coming inside, then work your way out.

                          The government is bleeding us dry so they can create a one world government and u nfortunatly, they are doing a brutally good job.
                          I think the USA is more interested in preserving the status quo than anything. Simply because the people who represent us are in bed with:
                          Corporate interests (wealthy), military industrial complex (wealthy), criminal justice system (wealthy), pharmaceutical industry (wealthy), medical lobby (wealthy), food industry (wealthy).

                          Now you put 2 and 2 together. Why is marijauna illegal (criminal justice system & pharma lobby)? Why are partially hydrogenated oils and trans fats legal (food industry)? Why can pharma companies put patents on PLANT LIFE (pharma industry)? Why do we start wars for seemingly no reason (military industrial complex)? Why has campaign financing still not been reformed (all of the above)?

                          The people who represent us are allowed to bed corporate interests, and what results is a disgusting abomination of a government that it's frankly pathetic to call a "democracy." This is a wealthocracy, an oligarchy, if you will.

                          The status quo is what they want, as they live lavish while you get paid unfair wages for your labor, and they sit in their towers sipping martinis and laughing at the common folk. They've bought out the politicians years ago and they have nothing but contempt for the common folk of this country. Sort of like myself.

                          The way I look at it is, if Americans would get an education, a real one, they would've long overthrown / impeached / revolted against this govt. The ignorance really is contemptible.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by omix2 View Post
                            The way I look at it is, if Americans would get an education, a real one, they would've long overthrown / impeached / revolted against this govt. The ignorance really is contemptible.
                            Or you can wait 9 months. :d

                            Term limits are great.
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                              This is a littled bit on the retarded side>!!!!>>! I read for like 5 - 10 seconds and quit reading with the pre-concieved opinion that this was a fucking waste of my time and atleast 2 peoples time. This is irritating

                              Originally posted by omix2 View Post
                              So earlier I got called a terrorist or whatever for stating that I support the terrorist's fight against America. I was only half serious, since I was trying to piss paradise off and get her to say crazy fascist shit like "the government is going to take you away to guantanamo bay." Look at what this administration has done to the common stupid / ignorant working class person, like paradise. She actually thinks I should be throw in guantanamo for my beliefs.

                              My interest in posting this is twofold. I want to show some people who may have been clueless as to some of the evil and hypocritical things this country has done, and I want to piss off paradise. Ok mostly reason #2.

                              Here is my reasoning, I feel that it is logical and factual:

                              -America is only out for its own interests. Unlike other countries the USA does not care about world cooperation. See: Bay of pigs massacre. America pulls out and leaves thousands of cuban rebels to die after promising support. Thousands of lives lost. But they weren't our own, so who cares, right? We promised support to cuba's rebels and let them die instead.

                              -The American people were given 9/11 as an excuse to trash their civil liberties, and took the bait. The patriot act was signed, and the constitution - which is the legal basis of this country - was promptly shit on by the current administration. The war in Iraq was justified to the American people with two lies:
                              1) Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11. This is already refuted. LIE.
                              2) Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. LIE.

                              -The current administration was not fired and the president was not impeached for these actions and his promotion of pro-fascist anti-american legislature and actions.

                              -FEMA's empty concentration camps. Look them up. Creepy and telling of the future? Yes.

                              -The government of this country cannot accomplish anything. Although it is a "republic" the elected representatives represent special interests that line their pockets. They do not represent the people. In essence, we have a puppet government run by corrupt business interests. People are sick of this, nothing gets done. Why do you think all of the democrats ran on a platform of change?
                              *meanwhile, we try to promote democracy, all while we have a fakeocracy. meanwhile, we support fascist dictators and regimes. the hypocrisy is blinding.

                              -The criminal justice system is inherently racist and incarcerates far more black men than white men, with worse punishments. 50% of adolescent black men will either be locked up or dead within the next X amount of years. yes, that's a real statistic. We even invented a crime to throw more black people in jail. It's called crack. It's the same thing as cocaine, except black people do crack, and when they get caught, they get 10x the punishment of little paris hilton doing some lines, who gets a slap on the wrist. But wait we live in the GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!?!! WE SEE NO COLOR!

                              -Marijauna is illegal, while the pharmaceutical industry pushes thousands upon thousands of drugs to doctors and americans. The advertisements are all over TV, levitra, viagra, plexor, whatever. I guess toxic man made substances that make pharmaeceutical companies crazy money are always better than something any american could grow themselves and ingest for free. Why not make plants themselves illegal? Oh, we've already done that, with patents. Yes, people aren't allowed to sell CERTAIN PLANTS BECAUSE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES HAVE PATENTS ON THE CHEMICALS WITHIN THE PLANTS THEMSELVES IN PILL FORM. A certain kind of yeast was found to have a cholesterol lowering property. When it was found out this naturally growing yeast contains the same chemical as popular cholesterol lowering drugs, the drug companies SUED the people GROWING THE YEAST saying they had a patent on the chemical in the yeast. The supreme court upheld their lawsuit and the company was forced to go out of business. Disgusted yet? Read on.

                              -America uses the CIA liberally to incite coupes and or overthrow legitimate governments. See Chile: where we MURDERED the elected communist representative of their country after our FASCIST PUPPET Pinochet was overthrown and the people got their voice, we just killed their elected representative. How can we have any moral standing in the world?
                              -We have none.

                              -The hypocrisy of it all. America is supposedly for freedom and liberty and blah blah blah. And yet, I don't see America's (govt) protesting China's olympics or their human rights abuses in Tibet. America supports/supported fascist dictators in the 3rd world. Pinochet, musharaff, prince of saudi arabia, contras of nicaragua, osama and saddam, etc. The list goes on.

                              -President Bush's relationship with the royal family of Saudi Arabia. Enough said. Disgusting.

                              -The fact that saudi arabia owns like 13%-26% of this country, through debt.

                              -America has constantly agitated against and attacked muslims in the middle east. Part of the reasons fundamentalists hate the USA is because of a military base we built near one of their sacred holy cities.
                              *This is why you see so many terrorists coming from Saudi Arabia. A country we support. We pissed off all the radical muslims there with our antics.

                              -Does anyone remember America's funding of Osama Bin Laden, our best friend? We gave him stinger missles? Oh wait, he was our friend then, #1 most wanted now. I see how it works. Use and abuse at will and then toss into the dumpster after you change policies / piss them off.

                              -Saddam Hussein used to be our buddy!

                              -Does anyone remember how we played off Iraq vs. Iran against each other. These countries had one of the most digusting, dirtiest wars of modern civilization and yet IN SCHOOLS HERE THEY DONT TEACH IT. Or they skim through it. Get some fucking world perspective. They sent 13 year olds into minefields strategically against each other. We gave each side weapons, hundreds of thousands of innocent people died due to our machinations.

                              -The contras in Nicaragua, who we supported, frequently butchered and attacked civilians. I guess it was ok, since they were on our side.

                              -The policy of this country towards the middle east has always been: "fuck you, come get us you ignorant backwards sand ******s. you all suck and your religion sucks. we're going to westernize you, you backwards shitheads. and take those damn headscarves off. GET A FORD." Now that they're pissed and they're on the attack, they are evil, and we are the shining force of freedom and righteousness? Give me a break.

                              -The american people actually eat and swallow this propaganda wholesale^^. Knowing this, it's hard not to have contempt for the average american, since he or she is stupid and ignorant of what's really going on in the world, and what this country has been doing for the past 50 years.

                              I am for the underdogs, I am for the terrorists.

                              And I would really LOVE to see some pro-american, flag hugging, ford f150 driving, texas living, black man hating patriot try to prove me wrong. "BUT WAIT OMICRON RACISMS NO LONGER EXISTS IN THIS COUNTRY WE R PERFECT!!"

                              If you are like me, you are sick of the hypocrisy and ignorance inflicting the common man in this country, and deep down in your heart of hearts you wish the terrorists would win. Because at least they're a little less pretentious than all of these do-gooders who are really the root of all evil and everything that's wrong with the world.

                              See you in europe.
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