Sopa

[metchsteekle]

Nica artwork. Reminds me of the old Outer limits show....we have control of the vertical, the horizontal.....

ok i have made my logo for when intermageddon hits..



Doh! the name is already in use!

Ya; and it's theme music is the x-files'es, to show sopa that we strait up don't givadamn.

[rev]

I can forsee the next civil war, coming up...

civil war is fought between opposing sides of civilians for control of the country. a war of the people against its own tyrannical government is a revolution.

[Baker]

I have seen more ads popping up in the last year than ever before - so to me its already like that on a good majority of sites.

Just you wait ... HTML5 will make stuff like FireFox Flash-blocking of ads obsolete.

Some day I probably will discontinue basic cable, you pay alot of money now for crap content and double the commercials.

Cancelled cable in 2009 I got sick of crap TV. I use Netflix and RedBox. Go to restaurant or friend's to see major sporting event I actually care about, ironically ESPN streams certain things live on their site (some of the college football bowl games, for instance).

If SOPA passes, it just means the internet will be just as regulated as TV. You will only have sites sponsored by McDonalds, or Reebok, or Universal studios. And they will have complete control as well.

It's really sad how our government can sell out so easily. Of course they'll say they're creating jobs in the process, when they're going to kill millions of small business jobs across the country, and create a few jobs with the largest corporations.

Everyone will lose but the pirates. They'll just find another way around it.

You nailed it maybe better than I've seen anywhere describing what would happen.

Well, theres no way to really know if they are capable of learning a new lesson at this point is there? things seem to get worse no matter what they do.

Corporate money in politics. It is almost criminal. Corporations are looting the USA (outsourcing, free trade of goods into the country, tax havens) and writing the laws. And funding elections. I think the US democracy has been checkmated. Corporations can spend millions of dollars to bribe politicians into laws causing hundreds of billion in damage.

I think if SOPA passes, an encrypted peer-to-peer "dark net" will form (not a single one, tons of them like a multi-headed hydra). Maybe it is better in the long run, corporations can take their ads and shove it.

[rev]

well i imagine people could get on irc and share all the files they want on some kinda private server, its been a while since i last used irc, but anyways its more about the government having control for whatever reason, the self serving illuminati , and the funny thing is , porn will probably still be freely available,

the websites themselves isn't the issue. they already shutdown websites at will. the fact they could force our ISPs into constantly monitoring everything we do. that's what was so scary.

but i knew this wouldn't be an issue for long. they will try again, but it would take something along the lines of "if we don't have access to information that monitors every individuals internet activity, babies will be raped and killed and blacks will become slaves again". then it might have a chance.

[R00k]

Nica artwork. Reminds me of the old Outer limits show....we have control of the vertical, the horizontal.....

ya thats where i was going with it

[Cobalt]

Nica artwork. Reminds me of the old Outer limits show....we have control of the vertical, the horizontal.....

ok i have made my logo for when intermageddon hits..



Doh! the name is already in use!

[Cobalt]

Lerster:

It all comes down to weather you believe you are a robot who's sole purpose is to obey commands. Your brain was put in your head, not mine or anyone elses. There is no secret internet wiFi hooked up directly to it that is like a back door for the creator so if you piss him or her off, they put the smack down onto you. All that paranoia comes from incorrect decisions and judgements happening based on how your brain is ' hardwired'. Thats the only parallel I can see in your analogy....but its a good one.

[R00k]

ok i have made my logo for when intermageddon hits..



Doh! the name is already in use!

[Lerster]

Soon cobalt it will be like this movie: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdImGZA-2SM]Hardwired movie Trailer 2009 - YouTube[/ame]

=) then there will be no escape....

Heh.

That trailer didn't show it but that chip they put in ur brain or on ur spine or whatever... it transmits commercials, in halograms to you... and you cannot turn them off... you have someone advertising to you in real life basically. So a sales person in your face... every so often... an can't mute it can can't ignore it, they even do it in your dreams.

[Cobalt]

I have seen more ads popping up in the last year than ever before - so to me its already like that on a good majority of sites. Also TV commercials use to only be alowed 1 minute of commercials, and I beleive that is now been doubled. On occasion I find a TV show I like and wind up losing interest because the commercials are too long, and not only too long / too many, they are pretty much about getting your attention by doing something stupid, like watching animals sing and breakdance, young people hurt themselves, and some are even demeaning kids (Ally bank). Some day I probably will discontinue basic cable, you pay alot of money now for crap content and double the commercials.

If SOPA passes, it just means the internet will be just as regulated as TV. You will only have sites sponsored by McDonalds, or Reebok, or Universal studios. And they will have complete control as well.
will lose but the pirates. They'll just find another way around it.

[Cobalt]

Well, theres no way to really know if they are capable of learning a new lesson at this point is there? things seem to get worse no matter what they do.

I read last night that it did not pass , and the internet will remain free. It was said that the new economy shoved aside the old. I doubt they will let this lie dead for long though, they will think up something else sneakier and attempt to pass it again. Seems to me ' freedom of speech ' is trumped by the fact we use english language as the means of communication, and the British have exclusive rights to the language itself. So you say potato, they say pohtato. Here, the defeat could mean a vistory for them in a small step because they heard a big noise and were able to get some sites to ' disable themselves ' during this debate. Yes, I am saying the government we think is our own, is nothing more of a morph of what we thought was defeated back in 1776. It still has lots of ties to Britan especially in the financial markets.

And if that kind of lesson is the kind of lesson the US government needs ...

[Efess]

If SOPA passes, it just means the internet will be just as regulated as TV. You will only have sites sponsored by McDonalds, or Reebok, or Universal studios. And they will have complete control as well.

It's really sad how our government can sell out so easily. Of course they'll say they're creating jobs in the process, when they're going to kill millions of small business jobs across the country, and create a few jobs with the largest corporations.

Everyone will lose but the pirates. They'll just find another way around it.

[Baker]

I find it disconcerting that the United States government has broken away with the concept in the US Constitution called "due process".

No person shall ... be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; ...

Recently with laws allowing the detention of US citizens, or SOPA with shutting down sites at will without involving the courts ...

I think it is abundantly clear that our government can be bribed. And SOPA/PIPA are examples of this. And apparently Congress and the President view the Constitution as toilet paper or something.

I wonder whether or not the US has to completely wreck the ship to get its bearings back.

But one way or another, the sun always rises.

In all honestly, I'd rather Kimp be admin of the internet than the government.

Oddly enough, I agree ...

[foq]

then they make kimp admin of the internet. ew.

In all honestly, I'd rather Kimp be admin of the internet than the government.

[Grim Warlock]

It'd actually be quite amusing if this does pass.