Originally posted by siger
Originally posted by siger
I mean, if you want to break it down even more, Team Fortress is pretty much the original first person MOBA then, before MOBA was even a thing. If Overwatch is ripping off both TF2 and Dota, yet Overwatch plays a lot like TF just with more classes. You can break most games down to their cores if you want to argue that way.
It's a very convoluted journey for any game and genre's aren't exclusive to their originators. It's not like Wolfenstein was the first first person game. ID Software just took the ball, ran with it and scored several touchdowns.
Originally posted by siger
I get the sense (and some people are pretty blunt about it) that people really don't like Blizzard on this forum. It's interesting to me considering they've created some really great games over the years. Valve and Id Software have too. We don't have to pick sides you know, we can enjoy all the games.
Originally posted by siger
I think that what you bring up about TB is true, but I also think that people in the quake community are mad about the game in general. I haven't read too many positive things about it on any Quake forum I visit, I know that.
I understand the frustration with guys like TB being the mouthpiece for Quakers, that I don't agree with because we're a strong bunch. However, while I didn't listen to his whole rant, what he said in the beginning of the video is true. This really isn't a game for the old school Quake community. I think that's pretty apparent by most peoples reactions to the game. And to be honest, most of the Quake 1 junkies are just going to keep playing and modding Quake 1. Like I said before, there is nothing wrong with that because i still love to play the game myself. However, I think people need to be more honest that they weren't willing to give Quake Champions a chance in the first place. Even if it was a dynamo game, people would still be talking crap about it without even trying it, which is what I see a lot here with Overwatch.
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