Server Fund Raising

[Mr.Burns]

Hi QN
I suspect it may also be a case of when you are looking. I regularly see players on Texas, FFANY (CAX), Rage, Rot, Damage, Bigfoot/EuroQuake, and FlandersNewdm.

RuneQuake can be a bit of light relief, depending on who is on, but I can't help wonder if just one of the reasons Shmack gets the numbers it does is because it's easier to pick up a game there, and has become a sort of meeting place for Quake players. I know some of the hardcore DM players tend to mock it but others take the view that RuneQuake is better than no Quake at all

Kr's
Monty

[Solecord]

You always seem to beat everyone and wind up top score, so how do you have a bad connection?

Anyhow, do a tracert or use pingplotter or whatever to trace the hops to the server hostname. You may find out one of the hops has HUGE packetloss happening at random spikes. I had this a couple years back and it was a bad hop on the DC area. Since the server has moved, I hear some people dont always have the great connection they use to - I dont think there is a win win scenario for everyone because your path to the server depends on a number of other providers along the way and if they have oversold the bandwidth there not alot can be done, unless always stay connected to the server even if not playing. Have seen some people do that and the bandwidth monitoring tools at those providers will eventually allocate your connection better BW over time. Drawback there is server will be always full....

I've posted tracerts before on Slot's forum. If I remember right, the bad hops were at the hosting facility (or just before it entered the facility in Chicago).

And just because I win doesn't mean I don't suffer from lag and packetloss. I adjust.

[Zop]

Are the traces better now, Sole?

[Solecord]

Yes it's better. Looks like server was moved to St. Louis?

traceroute to quake.shmack.net (69.64.50.237), 64 hops max, 72 byte packets
 1  10.0.1.1 (10.0.1.1)  4.424 ms  2.928 ms  0.491 ms
 2  cpe-65-30-192-1.wi.res.rr.com (65.30.192.1)  11.680 ms  11.050 ms  10.492 ms
 3  tge7-1.nwblwi1802h.midwest.rr.com (24.164.234.193)  8.905 ms  8.602 ms  8.526 ms
 4  tge1-5-0-8.gnfdwibb01r.midwest.rr.com (65.29.45.240)  10.902 ms  11.396 ms  19.944 ms
 5  ae-6-0.cr0.chi10.tbone.rr.com (66.109.6.204)  12.571 ms  15.519 ms  16.764 ms
 6  bu-ether11.cr0.chi30.tbone.rr.com (66.109.6.21)  15.368 ms  16.538 ms  16.377 ms
 7  66.109.1.76 (66.109.1.76)  12.729 ms  12.865 ms  13.060 ms
 8  * lag-8.ear2.chicago2.level3.net (4.68.111.33)  22.880 ms  13.928 ms
 9  ae-5-5.car2.stlouis1.level3.net (4.69.201.2)  17.366 ms  18.207 ms  19.235 ms
10  ae-5-5.car2.stlouis1.level3.net (4.69.201.2)  19.009 ms  17.854 ms  17.405 ms
11  4.28.92.190 (4.28.92.190)  19.061 ms  19.773 ms  19.847 ms
12  static-ip-209-239-125-4.inaddr.ip-pool.com (209.239.125.4)  20.676 ms  22.270 ms  25.183 ms
13  static-ip-69-64-50-237.inaddr.ip-pool.com (69.64.50.237)  20.315 ms  18.873 ms  19.271 ms

[wicked_lord]

St. Louis it is. I noticed my ping dropped about 10ms when it was moved from Chicago. I use to get 50ms on server now its like 40ms

[Polarite]

Never had lag on the old server.
Still have no lag on the new server , in fact less hops now :-)
Only 9 ?

traceroute to quake.shmack.net (69.64.50.237) 30 hops max, 72 byte packets
1     6 ms     7 ms     8 ms  178-119-144-1.access.telenet.be [178.119.144.1]
2    20 ms    10 ms     9 ms  dD5E0C181.access.telenet.be [213.224.193.129]
3    11 ms    11 ms     9 ms  dD5E0FA5E.access.telenet.be [213.224.250.94]
4    14 ms    14 ms    12 ms  ae52.bar1.Brussels1.Level3.net [212.3.238.129]
5   114 ms   110 ms   110 ms  ae-5-5.car2.StLouis1.Level3.net [4.69.201.2]
6   113 ms   109 ms   113 ms  ae-5-5.car2.StLouis1.Level3.net [4.69.201.2]
7   112 ms   120 ms   112 ms  4.28.92.190
8   114 ms   113 ms   114 ms  static-ip-209-239-125-4.inaddr.ip-pool.com [209.9.125.4]
9   112 ms   113 ms   116 ms  static-ip-69-64-50-237.inaddr.ip-pool.com [69.640.237]

[Mindf!3ldzX]

Never had lag on the old server.
Still have no lag on the new server , in fact less hops now :-)
Only 9 ?

traceroute to quake.shmack.net (69.64.50.237) 30 hops max, 72 byte packets
1     6 ms     7 ms     8 ms  178-119-144-1.access.telenet.be [178.119.144.1]
2    20 ms    10 ms     9 ms  dD5E0C181.access.telenet.be [213.224.193.129]
3    11 ms    11 ms     9 ms  dD5E0FA5E.access.telenet.be [213.224.250.94]
4    14 ms    14 ms    12 ms  ae52.bar1.Brussels1.Level3.net [212.3.238.129]
5   114 ms   110 ms   110 ms  ae-5-5.car2.StLouis1.Level3.net [4.69.201.2]
6   113 ms   109 ms   113 ms  ae-5-5.car2.StLouis1.Level3.net [4.69.201.2]
7   112 ms   120 ms   112 ms  4.28.92.190
8   114 ms   113 ms   114 ms  static-ip-209-239-125-4.inaddr.ip-pool.com [209.9.125.4]
9   112 ms   113 ms   116 ms  static-ip-69-64-50-237.inaddr.ip-pool.com [69.640.237]

Same here! I went from 20 hops to 10 hops!

Tracing route to quake.shmack.net [69.64.50.237]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 11 ms 9 ms 9 ms ASRock [0.0.0.0]
3 12 ms 9 ms 9 ms 192.168.22.81
4 21 ms 21 ms 32 ms 192.168.100.122
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 54 ms 81 ms 240 ms ae-4-4.car1.StLouis1.Level3.net [4.69.132.181]
7 145 ms 126 ms 55 ms ae-4-4.car1.StLouis1.Level3.net [4.69.132.181]
8 45 ms 44 ms 47 ms 4.53.167.2
9 45 ms 45 ms 45 ms static-ip-209-239-125-3.inaddr.ip-pool.com [209.
239.125.3]
10 46 ms 45 ms 45 ms static-ip-69-64-50-237.inaddr.ip-pool.com [69.64
.50.237]

[wicked_lord]

6 54 ms 81 ms 240 ms ae-4-4.car1.StLouis1.Level3.net [4.69.132.181]
7 145 ms 126 ms 55 ms ae-4-4.car1.StLouis1.Level3.net [4.69.132.181]]

I could see some PL and Latency spike issues going on there.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

oof! still feels better in my opinion. everything feels better with cable

[wicked_lord]

oof! still feels better in my opinion. everything feels better with cable

Wish I could say the same about my current cable. Pissing me off for sure. Once I get my desk in (been 6 weeks now) and new gaming rig (going on 5 weeks) since order was placed I will get everything setup and ready to go hard wired etc.. until then I am staying on the down low away from gaming.