Unit conversion, for maps and scale

[Ranger]

Dunno if this has been done already, but I did some eyeballing and calculations...

Quake units to IRL meters is a factor of ~20

eg:
1000 u = 50m
2000u/s = 100m/s

[Gem]

I was thinking about this some days ago. To me, if you move like a mm on screen is like 2inches IRL lol
Glad to see the boards pick up a bit in conversations..

[Mr.Burns]

Hello both

It may be completely unrelated but I also noticed some scaling oddities when converting quake maps to run on other engines. I've been interested for a long time on how quake would look on newer engines and as part of this process I pick a given bsp file, load it in to a conversion utility (thanks Baker) and then export it as an FBX or OBJ file. It's not perfect but for smaller maps its not too bad. That said, when loading it in to the new engine, in this case Unity, I have to scale the mesh up by a factor of at least 2.5 in order to make it look similar to how it does in Quake. It may be something that is done within the app as part of the conversion process as it also seems that the textures have to be scaled too as they often look tiny when added to a (non-Quake) Mesh. It looks okay when I've completed it, or replaced the textures with modern pbr equivalents, but scaling is a bit of an oddity

Oh well, at least its interesting and all good fun

Kind regards

Monty

[Baker]

newer engines and as part of this process I pick a given bsp file, load it in to a conversion utility (thanks Baker)

Are you using "modeldecompile" or something else?

Although I'm probably ruining this thread a bit by derailing more, I invest some of my time trying to get DarkPlaces (Zircon Engine) to look more like modern game screenshots ...



Some of it is also a combination of mapping and finding resources ... sheesh .. what a ton of work (and engine settings too), but I think I've largely cracked the code within the context of what I am looking to do.

[Mr.Burns]

Hi Baker,
I must say, your DP work looks really good. Its amazing to think that its being generated by a Quake engine. Keep up the good work.
As far as my meager efforts are concerned I'd not heard of modeldecompile but I'll take a look if you think it will do the trick. In the interim I've been using the Noesis tool by Rich Whitehouse that you very kindly suggested.

Kind regards
Monty

[Baker]

Noesis is quite the indispensable tool.

[Gem]

I don't think you are derailing the thread Baker, in fact, I enjoy your input and read most of your posts that I catch. I find them informative and intellectual

Also my secondary reason for making this message now, is that I like your game or level that is playing in your picture there. It's very Egyptian-like. It is quite good I think, it would be cool if it would be a playable maps with monsters But if not, it's ok. That Qualker game was (and still is) quite a hit on my YouTube channel as I played it and posted it on there. It's quite popular and still gaining some traction I think. But I don't play stuff just to put on there for views, I do it because I enjoy these unique gaming experiences, sharing them with others and also they are getting informed of them thus they gain popularity and gather some support and acknowledgements for their original creators. I've gotten many requests to tell my viewers where they can download Qualker from so they can play it too

Well so my final point is that if you've got a cool game for us to play, let us know so we can experience your pretty epic creations I'd say hehe

[Baker]

The devil is in the detail ...