Frenzy unbane from Rage, 0r/

[muller]

And you guys wonder why Tremor's server is so popular. Well of course because it's central and smooth as silk but also because the guy is level-headed and doesn't run around like a lunatic everytime someone joins the server who "might" be Kimp. When Kimp needs banning, he is banned. End of story. He is also technologically adept, something you admins-at-large could seriously use some help with when tracing IPs. Yes, Kimp lives in Philly and uses proxies, not DSL based in Socal. But good effort.

btw Phenom, your post is so full of BS i'm not even going to spend time picking it apart.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

What are blabbing about sndgo :F
What would help is the bleeding heart section would aid in the attempt to derail kimp's efforts to "be apart of the q1 community" , Period.


Not confined to your cute little TDM effort, I don't care if one server operator or two server operators decide "Kimp's Okay" to be on their server. Just because a handful see things differently, doesn't mean the majority will all of a sudden be on board with the same ethical choices reached by Tremor & others.

We still hate/dislike/disapprove/request removal of him at every sighting/actively pursue keeping him off the servers , and just because you don't like it or disapprove or hold any opinion about it, doesn't mean shit. We've been here longer getting our hands dirty for longer than you've been back to Quake.


I'm sorry we'll continue to be at odds from this subject....and when you make our efforts more difficult than they need to be (example, provided in this post) or allow him to exist in your "neck of the woods" because the minority vote is obviously in the middle of a COUP.

A coup d'état (English: /ˌkuːdeɪˈtɑː/, French: [ku deta]; plural: coups d'état)—also known as a coup, putsch, and overthrow—is the sudden, extrajudicial deposition of a government,[1][2][3] usually by a small group of the existing state establishment—typically the military—to replace the deposed government with another body; either civil or military. A coup d'état succeeds if the usurpers establish their dominance when the incumbent government fails to prevent or successfully resist their consolidation of power. If the coup neither fully fails nor achieves overall success, the attempted coup d'etat is likely to lead to a civil war.

So don't get your panties in a bunch when the shit slams into the wall and becomes a dead end.(Us,the community)

In the end you can either be the CAR or the ROADKILL. Kimp sealed his fate long ago,and he's permanent ROADKILL in this community, cry us a river brah

[Magnus]

Muller, a few of us has stated that if mindz or frenzy was ever admin at tremors server we'd stop playing there.

Mindz, just because some of us don't devote our entire days to kimp hunting doesn't mean we're pro-kimp.

[monoz]

99% of the time, kimp = 71.185.X.X

just ban that address and your good to go

[Phenom]

And you guys wonder why Tremor's server is so popular. Well of course because it's central and smooth as silk but also because the guy is level-headed and doesn't run around like a lunatic everytime someone joins the server who "might" be Kimp. When Kimp needs banning, he is banned. End of story. He is also technologically adept, something you admins-at-large could seriously use some help with when tracing IPs. Yes, Kimp lives in Philly and uses proxies, not DSL based in Socal. But good effort.

btw Phenom, your post is so full of BS i'm not even going to spend time picking it apart.

I don't have to respond to you or apologize to you for any reason so you're full of shit ot begin with I suppose? Why are you lashing out at a spectator that had no admin rights on the server?

If all you have is the weak excuse that the admins didn't waste their time checking ips dew to the fact that the person in question blatantly confesed to being kimp, using a similair aliase and even starting to play like Kimp then I think you deserve to be thrown into the ban list aswell with Kimp for your nieve and utter disrespect not only for Solecord,Baker, Friendzy, R00k, myself and about 70% 80% of the community on this site alone in general.

In the end you're the one kicking yourself in the ass and you know it.

But since you seem to act like I had a hand in this then its ok, I forgive you. However I never knew who you were until now.

[muller]

^^^ Brilliance

[rambo]

honestly if you think its kimp, play him in ctf. if he does good, its muller =)

also team rage quit...

[Tremor]

Hehe.
Is there a half-life on the ban list? I don't think there is.

I'm gonna have to stick up for Muller here.

Why is checking ip addresses a waste of time?
Muller hasn't disrespected Solecord, R00k, or Baker - but maybe 1-2%, not 70-80.

For the record, many of you *do* act like lunatics over k1mp - Mindzx accused whitlock of being kimp not long ago without doing the appropriate amount of research. There have been many other instances of this ridiculousness. Many of you have let his presence haunt you on such a personal level. If you want to ban him from your server, then ban him - that's fine. If people want to play with him, that's fine too. Some people play with him and some don't. What is it to you? You guys act like Kim Jong Il of North Korea.

When I first brought up dm.quaketx.com, I had like 5 immediate PM's urging me to 'get on board' and outright ban k1mp. Geez. I gotta tell you, that kind of thing made me not want to ban him at all. Really, you guys act like some sort of quake magistrates or imperial sultans of everything quake. There's an old saying.."Give a man an inch and he thinks he's a ruler", and I find that to be quite applicable to certain admins in this community. Furethermore, you all deal in absolutes, ie: Anyone who plays with kimp is "kimp's lackey", or "you're a bleeding heart" if you play with kimp or have any form of defense for him at all. And really, no one is defending kimp, they are simply defending themselves from this absurd form of deriding anyone who plays with or actually likes k1mp.

Frenzy is the only one who recognized his mistake and apologized, yet the two of you refuse to admit a wrongdoing, pointing out that Muller deserves what he got - sounds like a classic case of Napoleon Complex. And now we find ourselves with one of the admins calling for Muller to be on the ban list with k1mp. This is all so f'n draconian. Draco, the 17th century statesman who prescribed death for almost every offense. Pinch me I think I'm dreaming!

[Mindf!3ldzX]

I did homework on whitlock without banning anyone, don't get it twisted.His ip was showing up FROM philadelphia, so get your facts straight. He himself concluded that him being from JACKSON,MS it was indeed odd. I to this day think you,and him,are full of shit,and just angry that I know the community like the back of my hand. I have near ZERO (99.5% success) failure rate of de-kimping servers,and until DM.QUAKETX.COM came around, It wasn't a problem.

Kimp has tried impersonating server-owners by emailing server host's and trying to get his ban's lifted by means of REQUEST THROUGH SPOOFED EMAIL's. Flooding players,impersonating quakers online,and evading bans,and the fucking list goes on and on. He created a ProQuake hack against all odds and Baker sue'd this cat. Why dont you just slap Baker in the face right to his face instead of dodging all these facts and own up to YOU'VE BEEN in the wrong for a long time now.

BAKER Sue'd Kimp, YES. You dissrespecting BAKER is FACT.
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[Mindf!3ldzX]

Not mentioning, when Baker told us he was gonna sue kimp, the FN MASSES REJOICED.

The Masses brah, The Masses.

[Phenom]

Frenzy is the only one who recognized his mistake and apologized, yet the two of you refuse to admit a wrongdoing, pointing out that Muller deserves what he got - sounds like a classic case of Napoleon Complex. And now we find ourselves with one of the admins calling for Muller to be on the ban list with k1mp. This is all so f'n draconian. Draco, the 17th century statesman who prescribed death for almost every offense. Pinch me I think I'm dreaming!

I didn't do anything lol. except say that some strange named player is probably kimp. Now I got this muller character on my case because he was being an impersonater.

When Kimp impersonates its criminal, but when someone impersonates Kimp its "oh you poor thing look how they treated you for not truely knowing your real identify."

I'm not apologizing for saying that shit. lol you probably are Kimp! WHO ARE YOU!?

Talk about pantie twist!

[Tremor]

I did homework on whitlock without banning anyone, don't get it twisted.His ip was showing up FROM philadelphia, so get your facts straight. He himself concluded that him being from JACKSON,MS it was indeed odd. I to this day think you,and him,are full of shit,and just angry that I know the community like the back of my hand.

My facts are straight man. I said you accused, not banned. I also explained the arbitrary nature of whois lookups, especially gps based ones. I notice you didn't reply to my explanation.

Kimp has tried impersonating server-owners by emailing server host's and trying to get his ban's lifted by means of REQUEST THROUGH SPOOFED EMAIL's.

Capitalization makes it sound worse.

He shit on this community enough in the past that BY-GONES will NEVER be BY-GONES,and I refuse to believe because 1 server operator (you,tremor) try to rail-road our effort, is the end.

I'm not railroading your effort. I don't mind that you choose to ban someone on servers that you have admin privileges on - go right ahead. I'm only saying that quake isn't a dictatorship and you aren't our dictator.

1) we have more time invested
2)your favorite "amnesty given player" is some of our most hated players.
3)harboring him only pissed most of us of

1. Everyone is aware of the time you spend on k1mp, and I mean everyone.
2. That's like referencing a favorite dog, when you only have 1 dog.
3. But why?

It's not that hard to understand if an admin ask's who you are, don't reply with the name KIMP.

It's simple logic, and claiming to be kimp is simply stirring an already existant pot of shit that no matter how much effort is given to pretend it doesn't exist,it does.

I would agree that by claiming to be kimp (however sarcastically) would attract some attention, and a possible ban - I have no dog in that fight. With the zealot-like attitude against kimp, it's obvious why Muller got banned.

Perhaps I'll call for everyone to change their name to brb nom for 1 week and hopefully the admins will start actually checking ips. Possible solution?

[Mindf!3ldzX]

No shit, like walking into a bank with a skimask on and wondering why you was tackled at the door. PLZ, cry me a river.

[Tremor]

Damnit Mindzx, you went and edited out some of the things you originally said.

You keep referencing Baker this baker that. I had a nice long talk with Baker when I opened my server and I've kept it all private, suffice to say that he was A OK with me not banning kimp on my server.

You pull out his name like a pistol, as if to say he has the most invested out of all of you - which, is undoubtedly true - so if he is ok with my decision, why are you not?

[Mindf!3ldzX]

I would agree that by claiming to be kimp (however sarcastically) would attract some attention, and a possible ban - I have no dog in that fight. With the zealot-like attitude against kimp, it's obvious why Muller got banned.

Perhaps I'll call for everyone to change their name to brb nom for 1 week and hopefully the admins will start actually checking ips. Possible solution?

I told Frenzy it wasn't Kimp. Muller decided to reply "YES IM KIMP" , im sorry, I don't have time to sort morons from kimp's. My time is precious, and need not be wasted. If someone wants to make our efforts more difficult, then they can be swatted to the side along with the real kimp. As you stated it was resolved why continue raising it?

Why did it piss us off? You gave amnesty to a player that even Avalanche of ClanHDZ , supplied the community with the access and means to permanently ban kimp at the server-level , before Quake.


You obviously don't know exactly how much effort was put into kimp, you just want to pretend the kimp subject is just a handful of "dictator like" admins who're running out of control.

Whatever, don't educate yourself. Only ignorant horses don't drink when they are led to water.We used to be bro's but you chose to defend kimp from the big bad admin's who are evil.

:F