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  • #31
    Originally posted by Izhido View Post
    As a WoW player, right now, I'm imagining two trolls dancing atop your gravestone... doing a ritual to summon you as an undead servant.

    Dude, I'm supposed to be at work right now
    Just as long as they're gay pothead minority trolls.

    Like I said before, I didn't anticipate starting a fist-fight with anyone over racial shit. I suppose it's not the main topic of this thread, although it is closely related, so... whatever.

    The main topic of this thread was COPS, right?

    I do agree that too many cops do not have the right temperament for the job. I've met these cops before. They suck. They're fucking egotistical power-tripping assholes who love being able to be as unpleasant as they like to people with no repercussions. They have no business carrying around a gun where they might pull it out and shoot at another person.

    In my younger days, I was batshit crazy and used to get in trouble frequently. I've been arrested before, let's just say more than once. On one occasion I had been pulled over for speeding and I think I was probably doing 75 in a 55. It was probably around 1am, and I was coming home from drinking my balls off at a strip club all night. I had drank several beers, and between probably every 1 or 2 beers I was downing highball sized glasses filled to the rim of a drink called a StormTrooper, which was half Jagermeister and half 100 proof Rumple Minze peppermint shnapps. So yeah, to put it in scientific terms, I was what you would call "absolutely fucking hammered". The cop instantly knew I was intoxicated, so he asked me to step out and come to the rear of the car. While standing there talking with him, I was obviously nervous because I knew I was probably fixing to go to jail, so I kept slipping both my hands into my pockets. It's just a nervous habit that many people commonly have at times like that. He asked me to remove them from my pockets, so I did. He continued questioning me, and without thinking (because I was fucking drunk), my hands went back into my pockets again. Again he reminded me to keep my hands out of my pockets. By this time, another cop arrived on the scene. They both stood there while the first cop continued questioning me. Again... being drunk and forgetful, my hands went back into my pockets. At that point, both cops leapt at me and spun me around up against the trunk of my car. The first cop began punching me in the ribs while the second one was toe-kicking and muay thai kneeing the living shit out of my thigh. It hurt like hell, obviously. Dunno if you've ever had someone trying to beat the shit out of you before, but the tendency most people have is to try to avoid being hit further. It's basically a human reflex, you can't help it. So when I did this, they began both screaming at me, "STOP RESISTING! STOP RESISTING!", while I yelled back, "I'm NOT! You're fucking hitting me! Stop hitting me!" By the time they were done, I had a giant bruise on my thigh that went from my hip all the way down to my knee, and what I assume was a couple of broken ribs. I was charged with DUI, speeding, resisting arrest, and assaulting an officer. But my lawyer was smart enough to obtain a copy of the dash cam, and the last two charges were thrown out. The two officers were never disciplined for quite obviously charging me with something I didn't do.

    And that wasn't the ONLY crooked thing that happened during that whole experience. The local crooked court never assigned me an actual probation officer. Instead they had me pay my fines AND the probation fees directly to the city. I was never once drug tested during my probation period (because there was no probation officer to do it), which is standard procedure for DUI offenses. Anyway, long story short, a few years later the state found out about all the crooked shit the local police department was up to and they fired almost everyone.

    It's also relevant to note that a few months after my arrest, the same cop was shot to death with a sawed off shotgun by a a couple of guys in a pickup truck he was pursuing that flipped over in a ditch. He pulled over, got out, and was running up to the truck to see if they were injured and to arrest them. One popped out with a shotgun and emptied it into his face.

    I don't believe they had a good reason to beat the ever loving shit out of me that night. No cop should ever do that to a person. On the other hand, I did have my hands in my pockets. He briefly patted me down before questioning me, but he did not completely empty the contents of me pockets since I wasn't officially under arrest yet. He didn't know FOR SURE that I didn't have a weapon. And as it turned out a few short months later, he obviously had a good reason to be overly cautious, and if he had continued being overly cautious at all times, he might still be alive today and the local park might be named after someone else.

    It's important to remember that cops are people too. I dunno if any of you have ever been to jail before, but I have on several occasions. Lemme tell ya, it's stacked floor to ceiling with the worst human beings you never want to meet. And all of them at one point were roaming around free in the world. And these are the people that the cops have to directly interact with on a daily basis. If I were in their shoes, I might accidentally shoot someone too. Because you never know when one of these people are gonna come up with a gun and pop you right in the face. You can't necessarily train a person to ALWAYS remain calm and composed in a crisis situation. When a person is facing the real possibility of death, no amount of intense training to control your reflexes and the release of adrenaline can be guaranteed to work.

    I actually have neighbors now that I consider kinda close friends who are cops. None of them get paid nearly enough to have to deal with the kinds of assholes that comprise the jail and prison populations. And a lot of people who might be a perfect candidate for the job are never going to take the job because they aren't willing to get paid such a ridiculous amount for the risk they'd have to take on a daily basis.

    So I guess the advice I'd give to anyone who doesn't want to find themselves being the victim of police brutality or an unjustified shooting would be to NOT do anything to cause the interaction with the police in the first place. Don't speed, don't drink and drive, follow all traffic laws, follow all OTHER laws when you aren't on the road. It's been 10 years since the last time I got in trouble with the law. Haven't been pulled over ONCE since then. Before that, I was getting bailed outta jail at least once a year, often several times a year. I was getting pulled over all the time, and many times I got away with shit that I could've been arrested for had the cop decided to investigate a little closer. How do I do it? I make sure I'm ALWAYS following the laws. Of course that doesn't excuse police from any blame if they're beating someone for a dumb reason like mexican kids wailing on a pinata at a birthday party. It'd be swell if we could trust all cops to not be like loanshark enforcers with a badge. But in this version of reality, you can't do that. So the best approach for your own safety is to be smart and give the cops no reason to talk to you in the first place.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Focalor View Post

      Just out of curiosity, are you of the opinion that the holocaust didn't happen?
      That's a silly question.

      I'll leave you to your not caring and minding your own business, just don't throw your 2 cents in if you don't want someone else's 2 cents on top of yours later. That's common knowledge.

      P.S about your story of DUI... Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Phenom View Post

        P.S about your story of DUI... Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
        That's an interesting perspective to have. But something tells me you didn't have that opinion when they beat the living shit out of Rodney King.

        It occurs to me that I probably didn't make my point clear enough and maybe that's where you're convinced that I'm some kind of shifty too-scared-to-come-right-out-and-say-it racist prick, which I'm not.

        It's my impression that racism as formal written state or federal policy does not exist anymore and is altogether completely illegal. If that's not the case and I'm mistaken in that impression, then please point out any instances where racism against black people as formal government policy still exists. If it does, and the place it's happening is within driving distance from me, I give you my word that I'll happily go there and take a shit on their front doorstep every single day until the law or policy gets changed. If there's anywhere in America that it's against the law for a black person to be somewhere or do something that other people can do, I'm not aware of it. That's my point. I'm not saying that racist people aren't out there anymore. Hell yes, they are. I know plenty of them. I'm related to some of the assholes. My "wait for them to die" stance is entirely concerning THEM. I can tell them all day every day that they're stupid for being racist, and I can beg and plead with them to change their ways, but they never will, so why bother?

        Are there dirt poor black people living in shitty parts of town with little hope of ever improving their situations largely due to past generations of racism keeping them from becoming more educated and/or economically viable? Sure. But there's an awful lot of poor white folks too. Some of them got fucked over by crooked coal mining companies generations ago and they still haven't recovered from it. I don't have a solution to this problem though. If you have one, go for it, let's hear it. Otherwise all I can say to these people is... do your best.

        Are there golfing country clubs where it's almost impossible to become a member if you're black? Yes. But who the hell wants to play golf anyway? It sucks. It's a private club though, it has nothing to do with government. They kinda have the right to hold that policy if they want. Then again, everyone else also has the right to strongly disagree with such a policy and protest against it... just as long as they aren't doing it on the country clubs property.

        Ever heard of Bob Jones University? It's a private non-denominational protestant college. Before and during the Civil Rights era, the schools president spoke out about segregation. Check wikipedia if you wanna. It's fucking appalling how this dude was hiding behind religion as justification for his personal racial prejudice. What's even more appalling is the fact that even AFTER the Civil Rights era, this piece of shit school still held a strict policy against interracial dating all the way up until 2000! It blew my fucking mind when I heard about it back then. It was all over the news at the time. They were getting their proverbial shit pushed in by the media about it. And after a week or two of 24 hours a day demonizing and bad press over it from all the 24hr news networks like CNN, they finally realized they were gonna have to cave in and shitcan the ridiculous policy. And just as a last act of defiance and a final "fuck you" to the rest of the normal world, the explanation and public statement they issued to the media at the time of the policies removal was something along the lines of, "We're changing this policy because we don't want to give the devil a tool to use against us and the Lord's work." They didn't say, "Yeah, it was totally racist, we were wrong for doing it, we're sorry about that." They basically in so many words said, "We're only doing this because you assholes won't shut the fuck up and it makes us sad when people say bad things about us on that there TV box."

        And the point I have in mentioning that is this: It just seems like an inevitability that eventually all cases like that with private organizations will eventually mend their ways. Racism is such a great ratings grabber for the news channels now that they all fight each other to the death to be the first to break stories like that these days. And once it makes the news, it's all over for those people. They can't hide behind obscurity and anonymity anymore.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Focalor View Post
          That's an interesting perspective to have...
          I've personally met holocaust survivors and have seen enough evidence to understand exactly what happened, does that answer your question better?

          No I was not half-assed calling you racist but if that's what you choose to be then Welcome to the land of the free" I don't oppress other people's beliefs and ways of living even though I don't agree. My life policy is "do whatever the hell you want just don't F with me and *mine* and don't hurt people unjustly".

          Honestly with the Rodney King case if he played stupid games then he absolutely deserves stupid prizes... I believe stupid prizes shouldn't be locked down to any specific individual of any specific color. It was in general. It did look like he attacked one of the police however, which I think we all know what that means despite your skin color or gender/gender you identify as for all you trans-genders out there.

          I was replying to your "Black pride? Sure.
          White pride? GASP! YOU RACIST WHITEBREAD MOTHERFUCKER!!!!" comment.

          Me personally, I don't care if you're a "white person" with pride as long as you don't go around being a dumb-ass -racist- have all the pride in the world in being you despite your color.

          What I was trying to convey was the stigmata behind the terms which you probably knew but I've come to used having to explain explain history to people who get their education/news off YouTube these days.

          P.S

          Drinking'n'driving? yeeahup... you were playing a pretty stupid game there buddy . To bad the cops took it so far for something as little as that but at least you're alive to tell the tale.
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          • #35
            The holocaust thing... I was just wondering if you were one of those weirdos from the nation of islam school of thought. Glad you're not into that. Met one of those guys on another messageboard recently in a discussion about religion. 'Twas a fuckin' trip. Been a while since I've had someone call me "whitey" that many times. I tried to get him to call me "cracker" instead because it sounds funnier, but he only wanted to call me "whitey", hehe. We were having an interesting discussion until it got to the holocaust part. Shit just kinda fell apart at that point. Anyone who denies that the holocaust happened... when anyone with working eyeballs can see that it obviously did... best to just walk away from those folks. When they won't believe their own eyes, there's no using logic or reason to make a point to people like that, and there's no way you'll get logic or reason FROM them either. Best to just tip toe away.

            I'm in a XboxOne GTA5Online crew with a guy from Germany who's apparently a real life neo-nazi skinhead. I've had discussions with him once or twice in our crews kik chat about "holocaust denial-ism", and he always opts to back out of it and change the subject or go silent before it really even gets started, lol. Odd thing is... sometimes he'd post his funny little nazi reference memes in the kik chat. Like this one, which is actually kinda funny...



            ...but then other times he posts memes that reference the holocaust. And if he really thinks the holocaust is bullshit, then I don't understand why he'd think a meme about it would be funny. But, whatever. Nazi's. Whatcha gonna do?

            Rodney King's case might've been a tad different than mine. I remember seeing the video in it's entirety on TV back then. I've seen it lately too. Both back then and NOW, I don't observe him to be making any threatening movements at all. If he was continuing to move after them beating the unholy hell out of him, then like I said, it's a reflex, a persons GONNA move when you start hitting them. The brain says, "The pain is coming from that direction, I no like-y pain, I go other direction." And in cases like that where police end up beating the crap out of someone, maybe it wouldn't have gotten to that point if they were trained to think more intelligently in a situation like that and realize that NOBODY likes getting hit and EVERYBODY is gonna react in some way... so maybe try a little harder to NOT have to begin hitting them in the first place.

            I'm not of the opinion that he did anything during the traffic stop that might've prompted the officers to start beating him like that. Whether they did it simply because they were racist, I dunno, maybe. But it seems like the more likely story is that they were all pissed off before they even got him out of the car because they had been chasing him in a high speed pursuit before they finally cornered him and he was forced to stop. They were cops. And unfortunately too many cops are of the incorrect opinion that they ARE the law, not that they are servants OF it. They had adrenaline surging from the chase, they were angry for having to go through all that, and when he didn't instantly comply with a command, they pounced and let all their anger out on him.

            And this why I'm a HUUUUUUUUGE supporter of the push to put body cameras on ALL cops today. We have the technology, it's stupid not to use it. Look at it this way: If you're a cashier at a gas station or a walmart or anywhere else, the store is probably gonna have a camera pointed at your register. It's there so that the store can have evidence and proof if someone robs them, and it's also there to catch YOU if you decide to pocket anything from the register. Should a cashier have the ability to turn that camera on and off whenever they want to? Hell no. You can't trust them to do that. You can't trust cops either. It's not an invasion of their privacy. They are a public servant doing their work IN PUBLIC. On the clock, camera should be ON. It'll hold the police accountable at all times for their actions, and it'll also prove they're doing their jobs properly if there's ever a question about it. And that's precisely WHY questionable incidents happen with police, because there is no way to always hold them accountable for everything they do if there is no video/audio evidence of it. And when they don't feel like they HAVE to be accountable for everything... eventually a few of them are gonna do shit that they shouldn't. Body cameras! It's the perfect solution! Dunno why it hasn't become mandatory long before now. The technology has been there. Ri-goddamn-diculous.
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            • #36
              @Phenom, the statement I made about Ghetto America was from Sheriff David Clarke a black American. I just repeated what he said in an interview. Ghetto America is weak and not enough leaders and way to many followers. Ghetto does not refer to blacks as a whole. Ghetto has no color, ghetto is slang for how someone dresses, acts, and or displays themselves.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by wicked_lord View Post
                This administration has divided this country by race, white vs blacks, and police vs blacks. The administration prey's on the weak, Yes I am calling ghetto America weak and the reason why is because majority of them are follower's and not leader's. A leader would not be helping racially divide this country. MLK is turning in his grave at the sight of all of the stuff going on. I stand proud with all walks of life as long as they stand proudly with me. However if you are wanting to harm anyone in my presence I will ensure that you will never do it again.
                I'm certainly not an Obama supporter, and not because of his skin color, and not because of his political party affiliation, but because he's just part of the American political system and ALL of them seem to be counter-productive when it comes to solving any problems in a successful or truly cost-effective way. I think part of that is because the 2 major parties are so concerned about the rivalry between themselves, but it's also because all of them individually just aren't capable of being true servants of the citizens. But if you have observed anything meaningful indicating that "this administration has divided this country by race", I have not seen the same thing. So if you would, please explain to me precisely what you have seen them make the conscious effort to do that would lead you to believe this.

                I do kinda agree with you that this administration, and the previous republican one, prey on the weak. It's almost like the definition of capitalism has kinda been mutated to describe all the ways one can legally get away with fleecing their neighbor rather than how one can simply profit from goods or services rendered. And since corporations can now contribute obscene amounts of money to campaigns as if they are individual citizens, they get the political favor to continue allowing them to get away with all the criminal and unethical shit they do to further fist-fuck the economy and the working middle-class American taxpayer.

                It's been my observation that people in politics have had very little to do with directly instigating any racial unrest. People protesting for this or that or whatever have been pissed off about a lot of things for a long time now. People who protest the war but support the troops, Occupy Wall Street, these college kids and their Safe Space protests for whatever, BlackLivesMatter, etc. People are mad because everyones getting poorer every year. The cost of shit is going up, the number of bills people get is going up, and the dollar amount on their paychecks is either staying the same or not increasing quickly enough to keep up with what they're paying out. People are emotional, people are looking for someone to blame. So I suppose in an indirect way, the governments shitty way of running the business of the country has a hand in it, but I don't see that they've made the conscious effort to sow racial unrest. That would mean that they have been "effective" at something... and I'm just not willing to give them that much credit.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Focalor View Post
                  And this why I'm a HUUUUUUUUGE supporter of the push to put body cameras on ALL cops today...
                  I absolutely agree with this. It would help police cover their ass if they need proof (Though a police's word has priority over a civilians by leaps and bounds) and hopefully weed out the corrupt ones.

                  As it is now when a police officer goes "above and beyond the call of duty" (a.k.a beats someone down for basically nothing) their cam magically malfunctions like mobile cameras are some new alpha prototype device the world has never seen and breaks as the slightest bit of pressure.
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                  • #39
                    Above and beyond the call of duty means beating someone down to you???? I have never until now heard anyone ever use that saying in such a negative manner. You are former military and if you ever at any time did something above and beyond the duties of your job or what you signed up for that is where the term should be used, not someone who beats another. That is not above and beyond, that is criminal and criminals do not go above and beyond a call of duty as there is no duty to be a criminal.

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                    • #40
                      The general consensus as of now appears to be that cops think they're hot shit. Problem is, they're terrified to do their jobs, and when they do their jobs many areas actually profile because racial communities are typically the breeding grounds for things like gangs and drug operations. This isn't the 80's, the police aren't going around censoring N.W.A. for saying Fuck the Police, the times have changed. Are there bad cops out there? Yes. that's a part of living in reality, you take the good with the bad, but most of the time the people who end up getting killed aren't innocent, and even then those that due are usually killed by muscle memory or reflex on the cop's part, and half the time these officers are racially diverse themselves. Take Michael Brown for instance, he robbed a store and assaulted a police officer. The real evidence comes in statistically where black on black crime is staggering when compared to police shootings. Don't buy into media hype and do the research yourselves. That is all.

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                      • #41
                        Simple theory

                        You all have some valid points.
                        But, I dont feel like lack of work, greed, racism, evil intent, or other negative elements can explain the state of the world right now...

                        I have this simple theory to explain the state of things in the world today...

                        Humanity is becoming collectively unhinged.
                        One step at a time, we approach mass insanity.
                        For any valid reason. Or perhaps...

                        To whit:

                        On the last day of creation, God said, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness”
                        and

                        It is a likeness mentally, morally, and socially.
                        Many things in all religions make little sense to me. I have studied some of them.
                        I can understand faith, worship, fellowship, prayer and many aspects of religion.
                        It is just that some have a few bonkers agenda items.

                        Now, no blasphemy intended to your worship choice, but if the various aspects of the Almighty had say, serious bats in the belfry...
                        Then a whole bunch of crap here makes perfect sense.

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                        • #42
                          @numbersix

                          One of the big things in Christianity (suppose I should say Judeo-Christianity, since that is the old testament) is freedom of choice. Our fates are our own, unless we invite God to step in and give us a hand (i.e. staying in his will).

                          People act insane (murderers, rapists, terrorists, you name it) by their own device.

                          I have often seen many times someone question God's existence because "how could a merciful God allow bad things to happen?" It's pretty simple if you put some logic to it...if we are guaranteed free will by God, then we have the ability to make decisions, even wrong ones. These bad decisions can (obviously) affect others around us. If God were to make a perfect, sin-free and disaster-free world, then He would have to control people (decided a fate for everyone), which means no free will. Gotta take the bad with the good, freedom has a price, just like it does with our country.

                          Just my thoughts, anyways. I'm not religious, but I am a God-fearing Christian (religion to me means there's some kind of doctrine you'd have to subscribe to...like Catholicism or Mormonism or what have you...). I'm also pretty logical: things have to make sense. So I like to think these things out sometimes...sometimes I just take what I read on faith though, conventionally speaking they don't add up but I figure everything I'm meant to know is in there and the minor details aren't so important...
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                          • #43
                            Hi, I'm the Atheist! It's true that I'm going to burn and scream and cry in Hell for all eternity! But it's not true that Santa Claus is ever coming to town. Only one of these two things actually makes me sad.

                            Why? Why am I like this? Well I have this terrible affliction that causes me to question things and look for a REASON WHY all things happen. When asking why the world exists, saying that God created the world is a really stupid answer to the question. Sorry, but it is. It's akin to asking a child why a refrigerator makes food cold and him telling you, "Because God makes it cold in there." That would be a very stupid and very unimpressive underwhelming answer. Because the REAL reason why a refrigerator works is WAY more amazing than the God theory. It took thousands of years of living on this planet, people scratching around in the dirt, figuring out how to find copper and turn it into round hollow pipes and wires, how to wrap those wires around a magnetic ore and harness electricity to make a motor to drive the compressor that pumps the refrigerant gasses through it, etc etc etc. Wrap your head around it. An entire refrigerator is made entirely from shit that people found sitting around outside in the dirt. The plastics that line the inside of it, the styrofoam chemicals in the walls of it that insulate it, all of it. Now THAT is truly fucking amazing. If everyone else on the planet died of a disease you were somehow immune to, could you go digging around in your backyard and put together a working refrigerator in less than 20 years using only the shit you find?

                            And the reason why the Earth is here is similarly mindblowing and amazing. And saying that "God made it." is a simpleton non-explanation and is far far less astounding than the REAL reason why the earth came to be. This earth and all the life on it and all the changes it's all gone through, if a god can simply wave an arm and make it be, then that makes all of it very unspecial and insignificant. (Should we even discuss why the holy bible doesn't mention dinosaurs and even earlier life forms?)

                            Believe what you want. I choose not to HAVE to believe because I require physical proof to explain a thing. Faith without works is dead. And a god without proof is dead.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Focalor View Post
                              Hi, I'm the Atheist! It's true that I'm going to burn and scream and cry in Hell for all eternity! But it's not true that Santa Claus is ever coming to town. Only one of these two things actually makes me sad.

                              Why? Why am I like this? Well I have this terrible affliction that causes me to question things and look for a REASON WHY all things happen. When asking why the world exists, saying that God created the world is a really stupid answer to the question. Sorry, but it is. It's akin to asking a child why a refrigerator makes food cold and him telling you, "Because God makes it cold in there." That would be a very stupid and very unimpressive underwhelming answer. Because the REAL reason why a refrigerator works is WAY more amazing than the God theory. It took thousands of years of living on this planet, people scratching around in the dirt, figuring out how to find copper and turn it into round hollow pipes and wires, how to wrap those wires around a magnetic ore and harness electricity to make a motor to drive the compressor that pumps the refrigerant gasses through it, etc etc etc. Wrap your head around it. An entire refrigerator is made entirely from shit that people found sitting around outside in the dirt. The plastics that line the inside of it, the styrofoam chemicals in the walls of it that insulate it, all of it. Now THAT is truly fucking amazing. If everyone else on the planet died of a disease you were somehow immune to, could you go digging around in your backyard and put together a working refrigerator in less than 20 years using only the shit you find?

                              And the reason why the Earth is here is similarly mindblowing and amazing. And saying that "God made it." is a simpleton non-explanation and is far far less astounding than the REAL reason why the earth came to be. This earth and all the life on it and all the changes it's all gone through, if a god can simply wave an arm and make it be, then that makes all of it very unspecial and insignificant. (Should we even discuss why the holy bible doesn't mention dinosaurs and even earlier life forms?)

                              Believe what you want. I choose not to HAVE to believe because I require physical proof to explain a thing. Faith without works is dead. And a god without proof is dead.
                              damn dude, you sound pretty bitter about the whole deal lol

                              the bible doesn't mention dinosaurs cause it's not important. i don't believe dinosaurs never existed. i don't even believe evolution isn't real. what i do believe is God was behind it all, however it happened. like i said, the finer details don't show up in the bible. if they did, it'd probly be millions of pages long.

                              Christianity works on faith. Yeah, there's a lot of Christians that argue against science all day long. There's a lot of atheists that argue for science till they're blue in the face. Neither one is really focusing on the actual point of the bible

                              God ain't that hard to find if you take a look around. [that's the understood you, you are an atheist and i understand i'm not going to change that, i'm just throwing in my 2 cents as well].
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                              • #45

                                White pride is having pride in your history, culture [Which is even though you may not be a racist] is to hold on to and praise the roots of your European immigrant ancestors who broke away from a tyrannic and oppressive system stole,raped,abused,polluted and erased the history of the native-American people, stole other people and forced them to work as slaves then and ONLY after a separation from the United States and only after an insane war broke out between the north and the south did anything change in which the south rebelled because the north wanted to do way with slavery and the north didn't want to give up their "property(human slaves).
                                People actually believe this nonsense? I'm a proud white american and any other race has nithing to do with it. Europe has nothing to do with it. Conversely, black pride... regarding culture... what culture? At whhat point in your life have you done ANYTHING africans do? Ive been raised around black folks my entire life and It is 100% about turning everything white...black. If you had hair, Jeremy... would you get it did? Those are all english words but for some reason (definitely southern) blacks want to talk and dress like they still live on a plantation. Act equal and you'll be equal. My second uncle is black and he was the mayor here, like forever. He talked and acted like someone that had their shit together and he was treated accordingly.
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