Qrack bugs and suggestions

[Ranger]

SUGGESTIONS
colored underwater fog and screen color tone
always loop ambient sounds
hud location and size selection
quad damage glow blue dynamic light
lightning gun dynamic end light
vore, wizard and death kinght projectile & muzzleflash dynamic light options
menu crosshair option
menu powerup screenflash option
menu old style liquid tex warp option
selectable liquid texture scale
selectable old style hud icons
load models, maps and progs.dat from the game folders
load cd music from game folders in mp3 format
defaulting to 44khz
portal textures visible underwater

BUGS
muzzle flash interpolation fix
explosions have no dynamic light
powerup screen tone colors
no music volume option
save gl_texturemode "GL_NEAREST_MIPMAP_LINEAR" cvar in cfg
underwater explosion sprite not visible above water
more efficient bloom code ... lags game too much

[R00k]

thanks for your suggestions yet 90% is already available thru cvars
im not home atm but i can repost a list of settings to enable all your wishes
sprites not seen thru water require 2 things singleplayer and r_novis 2 or vised maps.

[Lightning_Hunter]

thanks for your suggestions yet 90% is already available thru cvars
im not home atm but i can repost a list of settings to enable all your wishes
sprites not seen thru water require 2 things singleplayer and r_novis 2 or vised maps.

That's the first time I learned about r_novis 2.

/me modifies autoexec.cfg

I am always learning new things about Qrack.

[Guest]

r novis 2... got to check that

[R00k]

SUGGESTIONS
colored underwater fog and screen color tone

gl_waterfog 1
v_contentblend 1
gl_cshiftpercent 50
but true the color of such should be based on the color of the water texture.

always loop ambient sounds

Hmm not sure i understand this. Standing at rl on dm3 with ambient_fade 100 ambient_level 100 i continuously hear the water sound looping.

hud location and size selection

cl_sbar_style 0 = netquake 1 = quakeworld
in video options the console size adjusts the hud size
you can also resize the text if you bring down the console hold ctrl and scroll your wheel mouse, if you use ctrl and backspace it will autosize the text to be close to what old glquake (640x480) looked like. which means no more tiny-tiny-unreadable console when defaulting to native 1920x1080 resolutions

quad damage glow blue dynamic light

This is two sided.
A.> if you want your player glowing blue when he has quad
you need to add self.effects = (self.effects | 64); to your progs.dat
and make sure r_powerupglow 1 = colored 2 = normal 0 = off
b.> if you mean you want the actual quad model to glow this would require editing the progs.dat. I will not add glowing powerups dynamically as this is considered a cheat in netQuake. QW has this and its just lame.

lightning gun dynamic end light

r_glowlg 1

vore, wizard and death kinght projectile & muzzleflash dynamic light options

hmm thought these had particle effects. need to test.

menu crosshair option

this is present in the multiplayer / setup menu
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menu powerup screenflash option
menu old style liquid tex warp option
selectable liquid texture scale
selectable old style hud icons

load models, maps and progs.dat from the game folders

changing gamedir should do this. This is true if using -game in the commandline.

load cd music from game folders in mp3 format

not supported atm, though qrack uses fmod which does support mp3.
I did however get midi files working

defaulting to 44khz

sounds like crap with default quake sounds.

portal textures visible underwater

hmm need to test.

BUGS
muzzle flash interpolation fix

ya, some models look funny.

explosions have no dynamic light

hmm mine do. Qrack version? r_dynamic 1?

powerup screen tone colors

gl_cshiftpercent 50
v_contentblend 1
v_quadcshift 1
v_pentcshift 1
v_ringcshift 1
v_suitcshit 1

no music volume option

bgmvolume (broke as in normal quake)

save gl_texturemode "GL_NEAREST_MIPMAP_LINEAR" cvar in cfg

doesnt it??


also what version of qrack are u using?

[Seven]

Thank you R00k for taking your time and actively visit the Quake forums regularly.
That is one of the biggest advantages:
You and Spike are very close to the Quake community and always answer questions concerning your engines patiently.
Not all engine coders act pro-active like this.
I wanted to take the opportunity and write these lines.

Thank you.

[Lightning_Hunter]

Thank you R00k for taking your time and actively visit the Quake forums regularly.
That is one of the biggest advantages:
You and Spike are very close to the Quake community and always answer questions concerning your engines patiently.
Not all engine coders act pro-active like this.
I wanted to take the opportunity and write these lines.

Thank you.

Yes, I agree with Seven. The biggest reason I have stayed with Qrack is because R00k is always around to hear our suggestions and/or problems with the engine. It really means something to be able to have bugs fixed in a timely manner. Some other engines I've tried for other games have had the same bugs for years, and the developers never listen to people about the problems they have (people stopped using those engines as a result).

So yes, thanks R00k.

[ArmOrAttAk]

In that other code you maintain:

Remove GL spam protection.
Restore SG original damage.
Remove GL spam protection.
Restore SSG original damage.
Remove GL spam protection.
Upload it to all active servers.

At least the GL for now.
Thanks!

[Ranger]

fyi using DirectQ as reference point

gl_waterfog 1
v_contentblend 1
gl_cshiftpercent 50
but true the color of such should be based on the color of the water texture.

It works now, but Muddy water has blue underwater fog etc, and all the fog is too colorful (see DirectQ underwater for comparison)

Hmm not sure i understand this. Standing at rl on dm3 with ambient_fade 100 ambient_level 100 i continuously hear the water sound looping.

I meant any wave sounds in the ambience folder should always loop regardless of the wave file, like in DirectQ. With my custom sounds in Qrack, the console shows 'sound/ambience/fire1.wav not looped'

cl_sbar_style 0 = netquake 1 = quakeworld
in video options the console size adjusts the hud size
you can also resize the text if you bring down the console hold ctrl and scroll your wheel mouse, if you use ctrl and backspace it will autosize the text to be close to what old glquake (640x480) looked like. which means no more tiny-tiny-unreadable console when defaulting to native 1920x1080 resolutions

the hud is in the left corner of the screen; should be an option to move it to the center.

This is two sided.
A.> if you want your player glowing blue when he has quad
you need to add self.effects = (self.effects | 64); to your progs.dat
and make sure r_powerupglow 1 = colored 2 = normal 0 = off
b.> if you mean you want the actual quad model to glow this would require editing the progs.dat. I will not add glowing powerups dynamically as this is considered a cheat in netQuake. QW has this and its just lame.

I mean the dynamic light emitted from a powerup, like quad, is not colored (should be blue etc like in DirectQ)

r_glowlg 1

This just makes the lg glow blue, I mean the bolt beam itself should emit light (DirectQ)

hmm thought these had particle effects. need to test.

The particles are fine, I meant the fx options - eg toggle colored muzzle flashes, toggle emitting colored lighting - eg hknight fireballs should emite golden light


menu old style liquid tex warp option
selectable liquid texture scale
selectable old style hud icons

changing gamedir should do this. This is true if using -game in the commandline.

Still only reads files from paks only
DirectQ reads from folders, and reads game music in mp3 format from the folders as well

not supported atm, though qrack uses fmod which does support mp3.
I did however get midi files working

folder music support will be added though right?

hmm need to test.

See e4m7

ya, some models look funny.

It would be really cool if the interpolation fixing could also be done on grunt/player muzzleflashes etc - an algorithm could be used where model objects which are mainly full bright colors would be exempt from interpolation

hmm mine do. Qrack version? r_dynamic 1?

r_dynamic 1, but only the rocket trails emit light
...correction, the dynamic light from explosions needs to be amped up 2-3 times; they're barely visible

doesnt it??

Turning off texture filtering via menu actually enabled this to be done ingame, but the setting reverts to bilinear on exit

also what version of qrack are u using?

2.011



BUGS
Qrack doesn't generate the default keybinds/controls if you delete its cfg

gl_waterfog 1, v_contentblend 1 etc revert to the default settings when Qrack exits

square world shadows ... also should have an option to choose old style world shadows . also it seems to be a source of major system resource consumption

Also even with bloom off, and on classic gfx settings, Qrack seems to lag/use an unusual amount of resources compared to other engines on classic settings

lastly dynamic lights look a weird/dim - see Joequake, DirectQ for comparison

SUGGESTIONS
DirectQ/Half Life style mouse directed noclip
simple blob-style shadows for models option

[R00k]

ok i appreciate your suggestions. ill try to work out these issuse promptly.

armor i never changed the damage to weapons they're default id stuff for both shotguns. unless u mean the haste rune. the gl spam protection was for hpb sanity which is useless now; i agree. in cax 1 nade costs 2 rockets no one minds that. but for ctf that would not work. i reduced the haste fire rate to x1.8 as it too was spammy for hbs and too powerful with quad. reverting runes to 3wave defaults reenforces the desire by many to just vote them off.

[PapaSmurf]

r00k, I found a bug in Qrack's server list. Not sure if this has been fixed, as I'm using an older version, but here is the bug:

When you press T to test a server for players, it removes the port information from the server in the server list.

[R00k]

hmm, ok ill check it out. I have the day off tomorrow.
I need to completely clean up the serverlist code. plus add the ability to have favorites.

[Lightning_Hunter]

R00k, I'm getting a strange crash followed by an error message in Windows when I try to run several maps. The error says something like, "Ed_loadFromFile: found B when expecting {". I found that it has something to do with the maps ENT file, although I can't tell you exactly what. Whenever I decompile the ENT with Qbsp.exe and recompile, the issue is magically fixed.

This problem only occurs in Qrack, and so far I've found three maps that crash:

https://www.quaddicted.com/files/map...ayer/jrdm2.zip
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/map...er/razzdm1.zip
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/map...er/razzdm2.zip

Edit: I just confirmed that this issue does not exist with build 3927 (Nov. 26 2012). So this bug was introduced after that point.

[R00k]

I have recently added ".ent" file support, it might be possible some files dont use the same syntax. I should double check that...

[Lightning_Hunter]

I found that some of these maps only crash if they are the first maps loaded. The map Lfdm1v11.bsp, for example, does not crash if I load something else first. If I launch Qrack and try to load it first thing, the game crashes with a similar error I mentioned above.

https://www.quaddicted.com/files/map...r/lfdm1v11.bsp