A Framerate Comparison of Engines

[scar3crow]

All timedemos are of demo1.dem
They are ran twice
All engines are ran in 640x480 with their default settings unless otherwise noted

DarkPlaces
DarkPlaces.exe - April 4th 2006 beta 1
16bpp 155.7fps
32bpp 142.1fps

JoeQuake software
JoeQuake.exe v0.15b1189-win32
55.1fps

JoeQuake GL
JoeQuake-gl.exe v0.15b1189-win32
16bpp 59fps
32bpp 59.3fps

FitzQuake
FitzQuake.exe 080
16bpp 275fps
32bpp 264.1fps

Telejano Directors Cut
mini.exe directors_cuts telejano8special
16bpp 59.2fps
32bpp 59.2fps

Tremor
Tremor.exe 3.2.4
16bpp 58.8fps
32bpp 59.1fps

VengeanceR2
Ven 2-1-7.exe
16bpp 48.4fps
32bpp 48fps

Qrack
glQrack.exe 1.55
16bpp 105.7fps
32bpp 105.3fps

ProQuake software
wqpro.exe 350
16bpp 54.9fps

ProQuake GL
glpro.exe 350
16bpp 60fps
32bpp 60fps

TomazQuake
TQ148.exe
16bpp 59.4fps
32bpp 59.9fps

All tests were performed on a AMD Athlon XP 1600+ 1.4ghz with 512MB of DDR 266mhz RAM and a GeForce4 Ti4200 64meg with the latest drivers. The only command lines used were "+map x" to jump to console and in some cases "-width 640" or "-bpp 16" or "-bpp 32" when a commandline was required for changing video modes.

My personal pick based upon
Framerate and visual quality? DarkPlaces
Visual quality? DarkPlaces
Framerate? FitzQuake

FitzQuake loses a few personal points for despising alt tab, and any engine where I couldnt change video modes in console or via options loses points in my book as well.

Do not take this necessarily as a guide, merely my experiences.

Qrack really should allocate 32megs of ram automatically for the sake of modern levels BTW.

[scar3crow]

It may be of note that Im running at 60hz refresh rate on my monitor, and the nvidia options are providing no option for vsync being on or off. Most engines do not have the option to toggle such in their engines, and thus Telejano, TQ, and GLPro may be affected by this.

Latest Tenebrae btw got 26fps on my machine

[Sajt]

[Baker]

Qrack really should allocate 32megs of ram automatically for the sake of modern levels BTW.

I think Rook did this and the later removed the feature for some important reason.

Miscellaneous stuff:

Also, some players have computers that can only run software builds.

I've always wondered why Quake is so likely to have trouble with people's video cards whereas things like Quake 3 are not.

JoeQuake/QRack/Tremor, all being JQ-based, are the only engines where I can alt-tab into and out of it without my display getting messed up with my GeForce2.

[CheapAlert]

Also, some players have computers that can only run software builds.

Sucks to be them then, because in this day and age a 2ghz is average and a VERY decent computer is very affordable, hell even beggable if you're persuasive enough. lol

I've always wondered why Quake is so likely to have trouble with people's video cards whereas things like Quake 3 are not.

maybe because THEY DIDN'T DELETE THE OPENGL32.DLL LOCATED IN THE QUAKE FOLDER AS THE INSTRUCTIONS SAY? That's like the #1 most common problem behind GLquake and ports, 2nd most common problem is lacking a 3d accellerated card, and that's not so common in this decade.

[Baker]

That's like the #1 most common problem behind GLquake and ports, 2nd most common problem is lacking a 3d accellerated card, and that's not so common in this decade.

Yeah, I am so glad that is improving in the graphics card department.

Dell used to ... and maybe still does ... ship out computers with the Intel Extreme Graphics Controller. It runs Quake 3 fine, but not Quake (black screens) and it is indicated that Quake is known to not work on the Intel page. My computer was one of them. Then you ask yourself ... "Should I buy a graphics card when Quake is the only game I have that doesn't run?"

Fortunately, 3D accelerators are become prevalent and every laptop I've bought has run GL Quake just fine.

(It wasn't the OpenGl32.dll, that does this error, but that file sure is annoying, isn't it.)

[CheapAlert]

i've never had a prob with running glquake on every single video card i've ever used tbh (from the powervr pcx2 from 96 to the radeon i have now). You've got to have a lot of bad luck to make it crash like that.

well the only horrible glquake problems i ever ran to was the s3 prosavage onboard laptop chipset, it just is slow but that's it.

[golden_boy]

These measurements don't mean all too much.
The differences are probably due to the details of the enhanced graphics stuff in the different clients and the standard settings not really being comparable.

even 55 fps is enough to enjoy quake. use what you like ppl.

peace.

[Sajt]

Well the point was that the engine(s) with the *most* graphic doohickeys and goodies was scoring the highest framerate as well

[Baker]

Well the point was that the engine(s) with the *most* graphic doohickeys and goodies was scoring the highest framerate as well

Yeah but Scrarecrow, was using the default settings.

What happens when you start turning the graphic doohickeys on?

[Baker]

I might add that you shouldn't turn all the graphics doohickeys on, heh :d

If you turn on a reasonable number of graphics doohickeys on, everything looks a lot better and things run smooth.

[Sajt]

Or if you have a 1337 card like my geforce 7800 gtx

[scar3crow]

Baker - yes, and in that default settings all dlight entities are dynamically casting all of the lights, so everytime an entity fires a weapon or a grenade explodes, in that region all of the lighting is being recompiled, so thats even more the case for DP ; )

Forcing vsync off netted GLPro a lot more fps as did TQ148, so its roughly of the same rank as FitzQuake now, but did little for any other engine. DP still looks the best, and runs 3rd best.

Oh and with Romi's rtlights, that scene looks better and runs a lot faster Baker. Keep in mind DP is an ahead of its time engine that is fully backwards compatible.

[Baker]

Oh and with Romi's rtlights, that scene looks better and runs a lot faster Baker. Keep in mind DP is an ahead of its time engine that is fully backwards compatible.

Agreed. It can make even the normal maps look a lot better without doing anything but playing with the control panel. It is an outstanding engine.

[Dr Labman]

No QMB framerate?

I wouldn't mind seeing how it does