I'm worried about the book stores

[wicked_lord]

LMMFAO@gulliver

dude that is the funniest shit I've heard in a while. I like how you threw in some "big words" to slight WL. Funny stuff, man.

For real though. I just put Baker on ignore cause I have no.interest in his crap anymore. I straight up DNFC. Goody for him and his bulkshit he can tell it to a <div>

I understand them all. I just find them useless when debating on a gaming forum.

1 geek trying to out word another geek is the sense i get. Reminds me of walkimg into best buy and seeing the title geek squad.

P.S. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

[MadGypsy]

LMMFAO@gulliver

dude that is the funniest shit I've heard in a while. I like how you threw in some "big words" to slight WL. Funny stuff, man.

For real though. I just put Baker on ignore cause I have no.interest in his crap anymore. I straight up DNFC. Goody for him and his bulkshit he can tell it to a <div>

[gulliver-trans]

These men have recently emerged from the hyperbolic time chamber of internet debate training and are not to be trifled with.

[wicked_lord]

What i am still trying to figure out is why do we have so many grammar and big worded nazis running rampant on a gaming forum? All of these 15 page post each person types up when you can make a simple post getting to the point instead of this long ass dragged out shit you ladies post constantly. Shit gets old reading it. Get to the point and if you are offended just say 'fuck u' and move on.

[Baker]

You're like a pigeon. You sit on your wire way above the ground shitting on everything below. Due to your altitude you gain a different perspective of things and you assume that means that you are more enlightened, but the reality is, you are diseased pest which is highly vulnerable to something as simple and weak as a pellet gun.

Get back to me when you lose the bird brain.

That's one perspective for sure. It doesn't make that perspective correct.

I'm sure you have other "insults" or whatever to offer.

I offered insight into your point of view, pointing out what I believe is correct about what you see and what I believe is biased.

You can insult my observation or me personally -- fine.

But my point is you don't understand why you think what you do, and if I bring it up you get all angry.

Yes, it seems "unfair" I raise these questions.

I'm just pointing out inconsistencies in what you say and then you get all defensive about it. After which, rather than even address those things, you get all angry and insult me --- evading legitimate points raised.

Which is kind of a dodge, actually.

[MadGypsy]

You're like a pigeon. You sit on your wire way above the ground shitting on everything below. Due to your altitude you gain a different perspective of things and you assume that means that you are more enlightened, but the reality is, you are diseased pest which is highly vulnerable to something as simple and weak as a pellet gun.

Get back to me when you lose the bird brain.

[gulliver-trans]

IDK man, the common man sounds pretty dang noble:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr6CnG5dmvM]Aaron Copland - Fanfare for the Common Man - YouTube[/ame]

[Baker]

I can't lie, it's been boring without somene intelligent to emphatically disagree with everything I say.

I don't disagree with what you say.

As an example, "modern science" is a media failure. Science never and will never care what "consensus" is. Consensus used to be that the world was "flat" or that the Earth was the center of the solar system; consensus doesn't make anything true and that isn't what science is --- and maybe ignorant people in the media who don't have a background in media might say the opposite, but you just have to accept there are ignorant people even if there a lot of them.

That being said, our disagreements haven't actually been about what you "say".

But your inability to see beyond the mirage of media and social opinion and take your observations to the next level.

Something I am still very disappointed in, somehow.

You are like Neo in the Matrix except that instead of using the critical thinking and the skepticism, you don't. So you are like a Neo inside "The Matrix" with no abilities.

Case in point, are you against the food industry being forced adding iodine to salt so no one gets health issues related to iodine deficiency? What about if they add things to milk so no one gets issues related to Vitamin D deficiency?

You don't see beyond simple "common man" thinking, yet you have the talent.

And you choose to waste it.

Well, don't blame me. I'm just the messenger. And what I mean is that you do have the talent for critical thinking, but you don't choose to apply it and sometimes you just "stop" when what you should do is "not stop".

[MadGypsy]

Oh Lawd, it's back and it has theories! God help us all.

jk....welcome back, Baker

I can't lie, it's been boring without somene intelligent to emphatically disagree with everything I say.

[Baker]

So if unemployment is unavoidable, maybe we need to find a humane way to deal with it. This seems to be the hard part - everyone loves to hate on the unemployed. That needs to change.

Enter the common man. He doesn't know of sophisticated philosophies, he more or less has a crocodile brain governing his behavior.

He thinks in terms in "I am hungry", "I am jealous of what 'rich people' have" and other simple thoughts and ideas. In a democracy, those people vote --- which is the right thing to do because it gives everyone a stake in the game.

Now, our common man goes to work everyday to a job that he hates. How are you going to explain to him this ideal?

Maybe it is more socially convenient that this poor fellow believes that he is better than the sack of flour that isn't waking up at 6 am to go to a job?

I mean, isn't going to a job that sucks at 6 a.m. a worthy cause? I think it is.

But worse, imagine the "common man" not going to a job?

He isn't going to be creating works of art or exploring the inner mysteries of physics or working on an invention to better mankind.

At best he is going to be watching television or playing video games. Hopefully.

But he also --- without adult supervision -- might decide to engage in activities to further his $1000/mo income under your idea like rob houses, pimp hoes, run drugs or make a meth lab --- or in France, killing people who have a religion that is often wrongly blamed for being the cause of problems that Middle Easterners have.

If you look at statistics, a lot of crime comes from these people that don't have an employer-based activity to keep them occupied or look over their shoulder.

[One idea, probably wrong ...]

[golden_boy]

It wouldn't be so bad if society could just bring itself to acknowledge that unemployment is gonna be the new standard. It's illusionary to create jobs for everybody precisely because of all the technology. Yes, some more qualified jobs will be created, but that doesn't offset the huge amount of lost jobs.

So if unemployment is unavoidable, maybe we need to find a humane way to deal with it. This seems to be the hard part - everyone loves to hate on the unemployed. That needs to change.

In the end, there's no way around paying everyone $1000 per month, work or not. The only difference with a working person would be that they get a bonus for the work they do, so work still pays off.

It just takes time for people to get used to the idea. The only alternative is to let people starve.

The cat will not go back into the bag.

[Noodle-Shop]

In that case I fear the fact that the Necronomicon (book of the undead) will have to go digital.

Digital beast up in yo head.

But no, I've noticed it with pubs as well. Ever since the smoking ban in the UK. Pubs have been shutting down, reopening and shutting back down again. The owners have raised the prices of drink to high prices. In some places you can buy a four pack cheaper then one pint. People just don't want to go to a place where the prices are high and you aren't comfortable. People are lazy "why go to a pub when I can smoke and drink in my own home"

It's the same with book stores. You can read numerous amounts of books online [for free if you know where to go] and you can sit around in your pj's and read at your leisure because it is cheaper and easier.

The kindle/book tablet is also there causing them to shut down. In the long run it pays for its self, has no glare [apparently] and works just about anywhere. It's rapidly out pacing real books. However I believe that you will never get the feel from it.

The smell, the weight, the immersion, the 'im reading a book fuck off or ill kill you with it' attitude. Idk if you can use a kindle in the bath. Is it waterproof? With books you know when they have been read, someone's favourite, if its good or bad.

Book stores and pubs had the similar home like feel 'We're all strangers here, there are the locals and the employee's too but it's home' When a drastic change happens [digital books/smoking ban/etc] places die out. Which is fucking horrid tbh. But if I throw back to HMV [a music and film place] most branches have shut because of the online uploading/downloading/streaming. Why go out to buy a cd when you can buy/stream/pirate it online?

Shits going down cus humans go forward

i'd like to see someone kill someone with a kindle tho

My friend says: i am obviously a fanatic for real paper back, can put your hands on a flick through the pages, new book/old book nostalgic smell that puts me at easy and makes me smile, but i also have a kindle. granted i tend to use it more as a general tablet, but i do use it to read. as for online book forums where you can find books to read for free, i can honestly say they have a genuinely benevolent purpose. for example, theres this site called Wattpad, its basically an online community where unpublished, inexperienced writers or first timers can publish their stories for strangers to read and enjoy and comment on. ive never uploaded, but i have an account. ive lost track of the number of beautifully written hidden gems of stories that ive found on that site, so wonderfully touching- having the same effect despite not being books you can hold. so i hold no grudge,
but paper rules all.

[Shambler234]

But sometimes we should laugh and move on...

In that case I fear the fact that the Necronomicon (book of the undead) will have to go digital.

[golden_boy]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOXQo7nURs0]Experience the power of a bookbook? - YouTube[/ame]

Take that, e-book.

[Baker]

Life is an evil game of balance... If you gain something, you lose something.

In the 1800s, your whole family could be wiped out from cholera spread by sharing drinking implements and watch your whole family die for no reason and seemingly no cause.

Relatively speaking, you worry about your nostalgia.

Which is a problem only wealthy people have. People with real problems don't have things like that on the top of their list.

This doesn't make sense... Some people are losing their jobs. The big owners of technological companies are constantly making profit. Some people are living on welfare. In contrast, some people are riding in limos, smoking cigars, and posing with some hot chicks. Life is not fair. We live in a cruel world. But sometimes we should laugh and move on...

Fair in what way? You presume those people's lives are better than your own.

Perhaps they are surrounded by weasels and have to work twice as hard to stay where they are, never getting to take a break?

Meanwhile, some guy with lots of job security locked up in a Chinese iPod factory would probably love to be living in North America in a job with only slight job security. Think about that the next time you are driving down the road, smashing the life out of bugs that hit your windshield and eating a sandwich made from some cow or chicken that lived its entire life caged with no hope of freedom.

I'm not directing this towards you, but self-pity is the sin of douchebags in the Western world. The king of Babylonia or the Pharaoh of Egypt have not had lives so easy as yours. If you see my point ...